Malicious Multinicks Stalking

destriero · Jul 29, 2018

lol I see. CSE mortgaged her home to spec on futures, 3x ETFs, WHATEVER and lost everything. Then she went cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Yeah, sounds like a plan. You should absolutely be posting to a trading forum.

Are ANY of you f*ckers SANE? This thread is like a flame to a moth.

destriero · Jul 29, 2018

CSEtrader said:
Xela was doing also the important balance of level and class on ET. Last I remember was a young new member from Florida, 18 years old kid, who was jumping in many threads with his imperative advises. This was funny and sometimes harmful, and she called him to behave.
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That 18yo kid (marketeater) from Florida was an alias of marketsurfer aka truetype aka marketeater. He's gone, too. Wanna ask how I know?

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...0-years-of-trading.322483/page-5#post-4680964

Good call.

southall · Jul 29, 2018

destriero said:
Are ANY of you f*ckers SANE?
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I think the whole concept of posting on internet forums like ET using anonymous nicknames is pretty insane in itself and then on top of that you have the nut jobs who then take things to even more insane levels.

El OchoCinco · Jul 29, 2018

CSEtrader said:
Writing here only because the original thread is closed https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/malicious-trolling-and-stalking.323122/.
I will not reply to OP, finding him continuously aggressive and scandalous. While somebody appreciates his trading skills I always prefer tolerances to the aggressiveness of partial knowledge, which may sometimes arise from genuine fire and believe that one is fighting for some good case... Well, without respect nothing is possible.

I am here to speak up for ET', for Xela, Handle 123 and the whole quality of ET, where ultimately lose of Lukas V I can see as damage and pain. Those who decide to hate and blame them, please, calm done your anger and try to have a patience and to read me till the end. Thank you. Breath in, breath out, like you did first days when the market was moving sharply.

First of all - no one of the above ever sold anything here, they were genuine contributors with so many technical posts, style, calmness, sense of humor as I already stated in the original thread.And Handle 123 with his quotes from Shakespeare and sincere opening about his health condition were trusting this community, and they both were giving for free they knowledge and expertise.
Help me to understand - where are the facts in all accusations? It looks to me, an independent observer, there is a lot of fire, almost histery. But where are the facts? IP address? Alexa Smith name? Where is the connection?

Both of them should be quite successful in their day trading in futures and were probably moved by this very inner desire to help others which we all have and once you become successful in trading, you are really asking what else? Like in this nice and inspiring thread. https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/millions-made-much-of-the-world-seen-what-now.319486/.

Again, I am new here on ET, as well on blogs, and modestly new in trading, it will be ten years soon. My own experience with ET is of deep gratitude towards Baron, Magna and those five who stood up for us at the moment where we really felt so down, thank you! https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-bahamas-your-help-will-bring-victory.320417/. The rest of the barking crowd is always around.
So, while I can understand that members of ET have seen different types of intruders I can not see a tiny sign of evil in Xela's or Handle 123 contributions on ET. The only one looks to be a lunatic character of Op, who from time to time is making fun on attacking somebody?

And who is now barking with him and make his company sustainers? It is stated here by Bone

What if Xela is really having cancer? As Lukas V has confirmed. The rest are all suppositions, the only facts are her posts here and the photo which exists on the internet for the past ten years. What is wrong with that and does this can allow a conscious human being to be such cruel as to attack a friend, a person who genuinely contributes here for years?
The next allegation is that Xela was doing it for getting free TST is simply
pity - TST is less then 200$ monthly and assuming that somebody talented and armed with such intellect, sharp mind and sense of humor, as Xela, would sparkle advises in order to gain favor from TST is simply making me laugh.
And so, all together, this thread has originated for now more then 9000 views, more then 200 replies plus original one, with more then 22000 views and more then 600 replies, and only no words of compassion if her condition is cancer?

I found admirable invitation by Baron.

But there are few points to name here
1. What if she is sick and in this very moment ET community "graciously" ignoring her request for protection? Baron's answering "no" to the ultimatums is courageous and only one way to be in the life. But what if it was not an ultimatum, but simply request for protection from one who gave so much and now in this very difficult moment was also found herself to be harassed on what she believed was her fortress, ET ?
2. I personally have the similar experience with a very dear family member.. when I failed to understand how much pain you can cause, I understood it too late... Doing right is not enough, kindness is the must. When you born in one social level and breaking through to go up the certain level of insensitivity and almost cruelty may develop.. you are thinking "Just make a move, just prove it", and you are forgetting that you are tiger but those around maybe just birds, how we can to pretend that everyone will fight as we can? Or maybe those are swains and fell absolutely disgust to come done and fight with pigs? "I know that I know nothing," Socrates said.. but we are driven to believe that we know everything? We don't and especially we can not understand the sensibility of those who have it. Our so-called strength consisting of the capacity to speak up openly, fight back promptly, may have much shorter roots than of those who can silently leave.
I would be very thankful, Baron, if you can email her, and repeat the same propose. Especially after you have published her IP address with the map and all the dirty accusations which came upon this thread.
Moving from the genuine perception of her posts which I enjoyed for the last three months (my time on ET) combined with my intuition and few PMs we exchanged, I can feel only loss and sadness of losing Xela, and Handle 123.
I can see it only as very unfair and found absolutely ridiculous all the assumption expressed here.

You can see - no one did it, and it is clearly stated by Schweiz - this is all mass behavior in thirst for the fresh victim.

I truly hope, Baron, You will bring back Xela and Handle, or at least let them know that they are missed here by many, that we are grateful for their contributions and wishing all the best to the Xelas healing! That those who have no diligence and sophistication to appreciate them are not mainstream here on ET.
And if my position is wrong, need to see it be proved with simple facts, not assumptions. If it is, then I will learn something new about web communities, nicknames and will be thankful. This my first and only one blog, no that I have the time or intention to participate somewhere else, especially after seen them been scared to speak up against banks. But I would love to make my little contribution to the value of this blog by expressing sincerely my views and trying to correct where I can see an error...
Xela was doing also the important balance of level and class on ET. Last I remember was a young new member from Florida, 18 years old kid, who was jumping in many threads with his imperative advises. This was funny and sometimes harmful, and she called him to behave. At this point the propose by Wrbtrader, I hope will be taken seriously into consideration and will increase the level of this site rapidly and dramatically.

This " consider to be a member verifying their "credentials", voluntary of course, only for those who will choose to do so, may make return someone who left and keep many others. Not everyone has a thick skin to resist certain insults, others may simply unwilling to descend so low to answer to a barking crowd and lose their time
As what I see we are having members who are second and more generations in the industry, as Xela was, as Wrbtrader is, those who are coming from the floor - as Bono is, as Robert Morse. Sadly not everyone has inner balance and education to respect members with years of experience, and at this point maybe it is time for ET to create some kind of special chairs/recognition signs, as any society has, for it's verified and valuable members? For those who will choose to reveal their dates to the Baron which he can then confirm and attribute some sort of credentials upticks?
For example, when you speak about make million (once in trading is your account performance shows your real capacity) and your avatar has recognition by Barron that you did it from trading, your post will have different weight. But if you don't yet, you are welcome to dream and arrive there. Bring respect and capacity to learn with you.
You can speak about the market only if you are really work in, or you can contribute as a seeker.
The community means progressing together, helping each other, it means to test sometimes, but not to torture, discussing but not offending.
All the best to everyone and happy trading!
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Holy cow....what happened to brevity and clarity. If you cannot say it in a few sentences you are not saying something relevant.

Baron is not here to see tax returns and trading papers so that he can bestow some magical status here which means shit in the real world. It is simple, take what information is useful but when we smell BS, we will call it out. If Baron himself shows the truth as well, why still question it.

Jeez....

zdreg · Jul 29, 2018

southall said:
I think the whole concept of posting on internet forums like ET using anonymous nicknames is pretty insane in itself and then on top of that you have the nut jobs who then take things to even more insane levels.
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above describes the Japanese stock market in the 1980's and early 1990's.

contra · Jul 29, 2018

CSEtrader said:
Writing here only because the original thread is closed https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/malicious-trolling-and-stalking.323122/.
I will not reply to OP, finding him continuously aggressive and scandalous. While somebody appreciates his trading skills I always prefer tolerances to the aggressiveness of partial knowledge, which may sometimes arise from genuine fire and believe that one is fighting for some good case... Well, without respect nothing is possible.

I am here to speak up for ET', for Xela, Handle 123 and the whole quality of ET, where ultimately lose of Lukas V I can see as damage and pain. Those who decide to hate and blame them, please, calm done your anger and try to have a patience and to read me till the end. Thank you. Breath in, breath out, like you did first days when the market was moving sharply.

First of all - no one of the above ever sold anything here, they were genuine contributors with so many technical posts, style, calmness, sense of humor as I already stated in the original thread.And Handle 123 with his quotes from Shakespeare and sincere opening about his health condition were trusting this community, and they both were giving for free they knowledge and expertise.
Help me to understand - where are the facts in all accusations? It looks to me, an independent observer, there is a lot of fire, almost histery. But where are the facts? IP address? Alexa Smith name? Where is the connection?

Both of them should be quite successful in their day trading in futures and were probably moved by this very inner desire to help others which we all have and once you become successful in trading, you are really asking what else? Like in this nice and inspiring thread. https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/millions-made-much-of-the-world-seen-what-now.319486/.

Again, I am new here on ET, as well on blogs, and modestly new in trading, it will be ten years soon. My own experience with ET is of deep gratitude towards Baron, Magna and those five who stood up for us at the moment where we really felt so down, thank you! https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-bahamas-your-help-will-bring-victory.320417/. The rest of the barking crowd is always around.
So, while I can understand that members of ET have seen different types of intruders I can not see a tiny sign of evil in Xela's or Handle 123 contributions on ET. The only one looks to be a lunatic character of Op, who from time to time is making fun on attacking somebody?

And who is now barking with him and make his company sustainers? It is stated here by Bone

What if Xela is really having cancer? As Lukas V has confirmed. The rest are all suppositions, the only facts are her posts here and the photo which exists on the internet for the past ten years. What is wrong with that and does this can allow a conscious human being to be such cruel as to attack a friend, a person who genuinely contributes here for years?
The next allegation is that Xela was doing it for getting free TST is simply
pity - TST is less then 200$ monthly and assuming that somebody talented and armed with such intellect, sharp mind and sense of humor, as Xela, would sparkle advises in order to gain favor from TST is simply making me laugh.
And so, all together, this thread has originated for now more then 9000 views, more then 200 replies plus original one, with more then 22000 views and more then 600 replies, and only no words of compassion if her condition is cancer?

I found admirable invitation by Baron.

But there are few points to name here
1. What if she is sick and in this very moment ET community "graciously" ignoring her request for protection? Baron's answering "no" to the ultimatums is courageous and only one way to be in the life. But what if it was not an ultimatum, but simply request for protection from one who gave so much and now in this very difficult moment was also found herself to be harassed on what she believed was her fortress, ET ?
2. I personally have the similar experience with a very dear family member.. when I failed to understand how much pain you can cause, I understood it too late... Doing right is not enough, kindness is the must. When you born in one social level and breaking through to go up the certain level of insensitivity and almost cruelty may develop.. you are thinking "Just make a move, just prove it", and you are forgetting that you are tiger but those around maybe just birds, how we can to pretend that everyone will fight as we can? Or maybe those are swains and fell absolutely disgust to come done and fight with pigs? "I know that I know nothing," Socrates said.. but we are driven to believe that we know everything? We don't and especially we can not understand the sensibility of those who have it. Our so-called strength consisting of the capacity to speak up openly, fight back promptly, may have much shorter roots than of those who can silently leave.
I would be very thankful, Baron, if you can email her, and repeat the same propose. Especially after you have published her IP address with the map and all the dirty accusations which came upon this thread.
Moving from the genuine perception of her posts which I enjoyed for the last three months (my time on ET) combined with my intuition and few PMs we exchanged, I can feel only loss and sadness of losing Xela, and Handle 123.
I can see it only as very unfair and found absolutely ridiculous all the assumption expressed here.

You can see - no one did it, and it is clearly stated by Schweiz - this is all mass behavior in thirst for the fresh victim.

I truly hope, Baron, You will bring back Xela and Handle, or at least let them know that they are missed here by many, that we are grateful for their contributions and wishing all the best to the Xelas healing! That those who have no diligence and sophistication to appreciate them are not mainstream here on ET.
And if my position is wrong, need to see it be proved with simple facts, not assumptions. If it is, then I will learn something new about web communities, nicknames and will be thankful. This my first and only one blog, no that I have the time or intention to participate somewhere else, especially after seen them been scared to speak up against banks. But I would love to make my little contribution to the value of this blog by expressing sincerely my views and trying to correct where I can see an error...
Xela was doing also the important balance of level and class on ET. Last I remember was a young new member from Florida, 18 years old kid, who was jumping in many threads with his imperative advises. This was funny and sometimes harmful, and she called him to behave. At this point the propose by Wrbtrader, I hope will be taken seriously into consideration and will increase the level of this site rapidly and dramatically.

This " consider to be a member verifying their "credentials", voluntary of course, only for those who will choose to do so, may make return someone who left and keep many others. Not everyone has a thick skin to resist certain insults, others may simply unwilling to descend so low to answer to a barking crowd and lose their time
As what I see we are having members who are second and more generations in the industry, as Xela was, as Wrbtrader is, those who are coming from the floor - as Bono is, as Robert Morse. Sadly not everyone has inner balance and education to respect members with years of experience, and at this point maybe it is time for ET to create some kind of special chairs/recognition signs, as any society has, for it's verified and valuable members? For those who will choose to reveal their dates to the Baron which he can then confirm and attribute some sort of credentials upticks?
For example, when you speak about make million (once in trading is your account performance shows your real capacity) and your avatar has recognition by Barron that you did it from trading, your post will have different weight. But if you don't yet, you are welcome to dream and arrive there. Bring respect and capacity to learn with you.
You can speak about the market only if you are really work in, or you can contribute as a seeker.
The community means progressing together, helping each other, it means to test sometimes, but not to torture, discussing but not offending.
All the best to everyone and happy trading!
More...

Yeah, maybe get your sh*t together before making a post like this. Who can stomach to read this in its entirety anyway.

Baron gave him (Xela) the opportunity to set things straight. He's not going to take Baron up on the offer because he's a scammer--the evidence has been laid out clearly. So... who is the "scandalous" one?

It's not about who's nice or not. Time to step into the real world.

themickey · Jul 29, 2018

El OchoCinco said:
Holy cow....what happened to brevity and clarity. If you cannot say it in a few sentences you are not saying something relevant.
Baron is not here to see tax returns and trading papers so that he can bestow some magical status here which means shit in the real world. It is simple, take what information is useful but when we smell BS, we will call it out. If Baron himself shows the truth as well, why still question it.
Jeez....
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ET is like a safety relief valve, it allows people to express their opinions and get things off their chest.
When so called traders talk BS, the pressure rises.
So it's a safety valve for nutters and pros alike but coming from opposing directons.

zdreg · Jul 29, 2018

contra said:
Who can stomach to read this in its entirety anyway.
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that's your short attention span and inability to focus.
it is nothing to speak out about.

ironchef · Jul 29, 2018

destriero said:
Handle123's last post was just over the top BS. He's been there with her for her fictional cancer treatments? She is a HE. I cannot believe that I have to reiterate it here. It's comical.
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Wow! I don’t follow Xela because I don’t trade Currencies but I do follow Handle123 and enjoyed reading his posts. Very entertaining and often quite unreal, at times incoherent to a nonprofessional like me but some of his coaching to me made sense and I am thankful.

I always wonder though for someone as successful as he claimed to me to be why live in XXX Texas of all places when he could live anywhere he wanted with all his money.

contra · Jul 29, 2018

zdreg said:
that's your short attention span and inability to focus.
it is nothing to speak out about.
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No, it's the broken English and stupidity.