TRUMP DOOM AND GLOOM THREAD!

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  1. Good Evening Ricky Roma,

    The Heroes on my list are all rich and not in jail. They all have terrific morals and VERY good traders. Each one on the list have assisted me in becoming a Master ES futures market trader.

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...lders-punish-china.383594/page-3#post-6104560
     
    #151     Mar 17, 2025
  2. Sprout

    Sprout

    almost accurate, just needs the bodies of his supporters affected by his trade war under the tracks - just like he threw them under the bus
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    "Robert Maxim, a fellow at the Brookings Metro, a Washington think tank that has done similar analysis, said that other countries had particularly targeted Trump-supporting regions and places where “Trump would like to fashion himself as revitalizing the U.S.” That includes smaller manufacturing communities in states like Wisconsin, Indiana and Michigan, as well as southern states like Kentucky and Georgia, he said.

    The message foreign countries are trying to send, he said, is, “You think you can bully us, well, we can hurt you too. And by the way, we know where it really matters.”

    Retaliation may also mean concentrated pain for some industries, like farming. In Mr. Trump’s first term, American farmers – a strong voting bloc for the president – were targeted by China and other governments, which caused U.S. exports of soybeans and other crops to plummet."

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    For more detailed analysis:
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/15/business/economy/tariffs-trump-maps-voters.html
     
    #152     Mar 17, 2025
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  3. Sprout

    Sprout

    #153     Mar 17, 2025
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  4. volpri

    volpri

    Canada can design and target all they want. Scream..cry..bellow..holler. Why are they making such a ruckus? Simply because they are the ones that will hurt the worst and they KNOW it. Again, time will tell. Maybe Canada will come to some agreement with US over this but personally I had just as soon they didn't and we go our separate ways. I am not against trade, but I am against free trade agreements between governments. I think trade should be between business to business without the government being involved it.

    US will survive and thrive in time. Will Canada?
     
    #154     Mar 17, 2025
  5. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Right, once Drumpf is out of office LOL.

    But what will his buddy PuPu do without him?

    Return to being a tinpot dictator.
     
    #155     Mar 17, 2025
  6. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Some of your heroes have been in jail, charged with felons, etc etc. That suggests your own ethics is suspect ( if not your morals ) if you think they have "terrific morals". I suspect you confuse success at any cost with a righteous approach. Then again your posts often suggest you must be trolling to some degree because your personal judgement on these topics really can't be this bad if you have decent critical thinking skills.
     
    #156     Mar 17, 2025
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  7. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Canada isn't causing a ruckus; this is all in your head. In fact, Canada is the calm party here while Trump and gang are a mess of chaos and noise. You just seem delusional at this point on all these topics. Targeted trade policies are working they have US officials really nervous and you it seems as well. And come on now, Canadian officials like Carney/Freeland/Joly are capable and sane people who are far smarter and effective then Trump could ever be. Even blue collar Doug Ford looks like a genius next to Trump :).
     
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    #157     Mar 17, 2025
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  8. Sprout

    Sprout

    Opining without even informing yourself by reading the article.
    It's not just Canada, it's every other trade partner that Trump has targeted with tariffs.
     
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    #158     Mar 17, 2025
  9. Sprout

    Sprout

    Black Saturday: The Day the United States Ceased to Be a Constitutional Democracy

    The Moment Democracy Ceased to Function

    Saturday, March 15, 2025, may have seemed unremarkable to most Americans. But in time, history will remember it as Black Saturday—the moment the United States ceased to function as a constitutional democracy.

    For the first time in modern American history, a sitting president openly defied a direct federal court order—and nothing happened. No intervention. No enforcement. No consequences. A legal ruling was issued, and the White House simply ignored it.

    The White House’s Decision: Power Over Law
    Inside the White House, the decision was not about law—it was about power. A federal judge ruled against the administration. The debate inside Trump’s team was not whether the ruling was legal, but whether they could get away with ignoring it. They decided they could. And they were right.

    This was not a clash between equal branches of government. It was the moment the judiciary was exposed as powerless. The courts do not have an army. They rely on compliance. But a court that cannot enforce its rulings is not a court—it is a suggestion box. And a presidency that can ignore the courts without consequence is no longer constrained by law—it is an untouchable executive.

    Trump did not declare the end of judicial authority in a speech. He demonstrated it in practice. This is how democratic systems collapse—not with a single act, but with the normalization of defiance, the expectation that a ruling can simply be brushed aside.

    How the System Failed to Stop Him
    This moment did not happen in isolation. It happened because every prior attempt to hold Trump accountable has failed. The system tried—and at every turn, it proved incapable of stopping him.

    Impeachment failed—twice. Criminal cases stalled. The Supreme Court refused to rule on his disqualification. Congress never moved to check his power. At each step, Trump tested the system—and the system flinched. He learned that laws are only as strong as the institutions willing to enforce them. And so, when faced with a court ruling, he did what he had been conditioned to do—he ignored it. And nothing happened.

    The Supreme Court’s Role in Making the Presidency Untouchable
    The judiciary was already weakened by years of erosion, but in 2024, the Supreme Court itself ensured that when this moment arrived, there would be no legal recourse left. In a landmark ruling, the Court expanded presidential immunity to such an extent that the office of the presidency is now functionally above the law. A president can commit crimes while in office and face no immediate accountability. And now, with Black Saturday, Trump has proven that he can ignore court rulings entirely without consequence.

    This is not the separation of powers. It is the absorption of power into a single branch. The courts were supposed to be the last line of defense. Instead, they have been reduced to issuing rulings the executive can freely ignore.

    The Role of Fox News in Conditioning the Public
    Fox News did not issue the order, but it made this moment possible. In the aftermath of Trump’s defiance, Fox put the judge’s face on screen, not as part of neutral reporting, but as a deliberate act of intimidation. They did not need to explicitly declare that judicial rulings no longer mattered—they had already spent years training millions to believe it. Through relentless framing, they had conditioned their audience to see the courts as corrupt, as partisan, as obstacles to be overcome rather than institutions to be respected. Trump did not invent this strategy; he simply acted on it, carrying their rhetoric to its logical conclusion.

    Why Americans Do Not See the Collapse Happening
    This is why the phrase “you cannot see the forest for the trees” is so powerful in this moment. The trees are the individual events. Trump ignoring a court ruling. The Supreme Court making the presidency immune from criminal accountability. Congress failing to act repeatedly. The media normalizing the breakdown of democracy. The forest is the overarching reality. The U.S. government is no longer constrained by constitutional limits. The judiciary has been rendered powerless through precedent and selective enforcement. The executive branch now decides which laws apply to itself.

    Most people living through history don’t realize they are inside a moment of collapse because each event, taken alone, does not seem like the end of democracy. The shock of one ruling being ignored does not feel catastrophic. The Supreme Court deciding a president is immune from prosecution feels like just another legal controversy. Congressional inaction feels like business as usual. The media’s treatment of this moment as just another chapter in the ongoing Trump saga makes it easy to assume the system will self-correct. But when viewed together, it becomes undeniable that the system has already failed.

    The Moment Future Historians Will Point To
    This is why people will look back on Black Saturday and wonder why it wasn’t immediately recognized as the breaking point. Because when you are inside the collapse, it feels like just another day. The weight of history is often invisible in the moment, its consequences spread out over years. But the truth is unavoidable: this is not just another legal dispute. It is not another chapter in partisan warfare. It is not an escalation of existing dysfunction. It is the end of constitutional government.

    No democracy that has reached this stage has ever recovered without major structural change. This is not just an escalation of political crisis—it is the moment when constitutional rule is replaced with raw executive power.

    Why This Is Worse Than Any Previous Crisis
    This is not like Andrew Jackson defying the Supreme Court in 1832. When Jackson ignored Worcester v. Georgia, America was an evolving democracy. The role of the Supreme Court was still in flux, and the country’s institutions were not yet fully formed. Today, America is a collapsing democracy. The Supreme Court’s authority is settled law. The difference is that this time, the institutions were expected to work.

    Andrew Jackson defied the Supreme Court in an era when executive power was not yet defined. Trump is erasing the limits on executive power in a system where they were already supposed to be settled. Jackson faced political opposition. Trump controls his party completely. In Jackson’s time, Congress still operated as a counterweight. Today, Congress is a rubber-stamp body that enables presidential overreach rather than restraining it.

    The courts were supposed to be the final check. That check no longer exists.

    What Comes After Democracy?
    We have passed the event horizon. This is not about democracy in crisis anymore—it is about what comes after democracy. The system that once absorbed and corrected these shocks is no longer functioning.

    The shock of January 6th did not lead to democratic renewal—it was a preview of what was coming. The rollback of reproductive rights in 2022 was not just about abortion—it was proof that legal protections could be stripped away at will. The Supreme Court’s expansion of presidential power in 2024 did not just change legal precedent—it ensured that the next time a president defied a court order, there would be no enforcement mechanism to stop it. That is where we are now. The end of the courts as a meaningful check on power.

    There is no going back to the America of the 1990s. No return to a time when presidential power was constrained, when the judiciary had the final say, when law enforcement agencies functioned as independent institutions rather than tools of political power. That system is already gone.

    Some will say this is alarmist. That democracy cannot end so quietly. But collapse does not feel like collapse when you are inside it. It feels like just another legal story. Just another Saturday in America. Until one day, you look up and realize there is nothing left to save.

    The Final Verdict on Black Saturday
    Black Saturday will be remembered as the day the constitutional system failed.

    from The Intellectualist
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    A more detailed breakdown:

    By Timothy Snyder
    Individuals associated with the federal government have, in defiance of a court order and without a trial or any form of due process, deported hundreds of people from the territory of the United States to El Salvador, where they will be held indefinitely in a concentration camp.

    1. This violated fundamental rights enumerated in the Constitution. Everyone in the United States has the right to a fair trial with due process of law. People who say things along the lines of "enemy combatants don't have the right to due process" are wrong. And it is important to understand the implications of that position. Anyone can be named an "enemy combatant." More fundamentally, once you accept any exception to the general rule, you are just inviting executive power to always use that exception, or make up another one. If you are a citizen and you are casting doubt on the importance of due process, remember this: you need due process in order to prove that you are a citizen.

    2. The deportation was done in violation of a court order, according to a plan to undo the rule of law. This means that the action was not only specifically illegal, but designed as a challenge to the rule of law as such. Naturally, the individuals who chose to ignore a court order carefully selected the moment when they would do so. They chose a situation that they could characterize as us against them, the Americans against the foreigners, the regular people against the criminals. They are deliberately associating the law itself with people, the deportees, who they expect to be unpopular. This is a tactic, and historically speaking a very familiar one. In this way they hope to get popular opinion on their side as they ignore a court order. But if they succeed in making an exception once, it becomes the rule.

    3. You do not know who was on those two planes to El Salvador. The individuals who arranged the deportation claim that the deportees were "foreign alien terrorists," but we have no way of knowing whether this is true. They also claim that they were “monsters,” which is not true. We do not know the names of the human beings who were deported. We cannot therefore know whether they were foreigners or American citizens. As to whether they were terrorists: they were not convicted of any crimes, and so it is hard to know whether or how this would be true. There is no doubt that their rights were violated. But your rights have been violated as well. If you do not know the details about operations that forcibly remove human beings from the territory of the United States, you do not have a responsive government. And you are therefore at risk.

    4. Immigration and emigration are matters of legislation, the responsibility for which is delegated by the Constitution to Congress. In organizing a deportation outside the bounds of any particular law, and indeed outside the bounds of law in general, the executive is not only challenging Congress but disputing its purpose. The deportation action, in other words, is a direct blow not only to the judiciary but to the legislative branch of the federal government. It is an assertion of total executive authority that has no basis in law or tradition.

    5. The individuals involved are declaring their power to define reality, independently not only of judicial but of all verification. There is no basis for this deportation beyond speech acts and keyboard acts. The words ("foreign alien terrorists," "monsters") are doing the work. There are no procedures between the movement of mouths and the movement of bodies. If members of the executive branch are allowed to issue truth claims that have the consequence that human beings leave the United States, we are in a dictatorship. If we accept that the executive branch can simply deport anyone they call a "foreign alien terrorist," then none of us has any rights.

    6. The language that is being used has a specific resonance, which, historically, has been used to change regime type. It is important that the rights of human beings were violated. It is important that the rule of law was ignored. It is important that the executive is trying to define reality. But beyond even the issues of right and wrong and reality and unreality is the issue of language and behavior. We must consider just how the words are selected and what they are meant to do to us. "Foreign" means that they are not us. "Alien" means that we should hate them. "Terrorist" means that we should hate them enough to allow a state of exception, a suspension of normal practices, a change of regime. There is a long history of this, all around the world, including Hitler in 1933 and Stalin in 1934.

    7. In an Orwellian reversal, defenders of the law are being associated with crime. The whole point of the rule of law is that everyone has a certain human dignity, which requires that they get their day in court, consistent with certain procedures. We do not know who is a criminal and who is not without these acknowledgements and these processes. The executive is claiming that it can simply name people "criminals" or “terrorists” or "monsters"-- and then contend that the defenders of law associates of criminals or monsters. In this way, the individuals who are carrying out this dictatorial action smear those who defend the Constitution by associating them with crimes, and of course with the most corporeal and unpleasant crimes. This is a logic entirely foreign to freedom, and destructive of it.

    8. The smear campaign extends to political opponents. The executive branch is claiming that the people they call "terrorists" were in the United States thanks to the deliberate actions of the Biden administration, Democrats, and so on. "These are the monsters," says the chief executive, "sent into our Country by Crooked Joe Biden and the Radical Left Democrats. How dare they!" Again, we do not know whether the deportees have committed any crimes, or indeed who they are. We are meant to accept the mouth and keyboard movements of individuals associated with the federal government as generative of dispositive truth on this matter. Pushing the blame for the existence of "foreign alien terrorists" onto political opponents is meant to delegitimate them, and to undermine their place in the political order. It is a strike, in other words, against democracy and basic political freedom.

    9. Anyone can be dehumanized, portrayed as a "monster," and the dehumanization proceeds from the humiliation of the body. If you took one of these deportees, gave him a certain haircut, and put him in a suit, he would look like a cabinet member. If you take a cabinet member, shave off his hair, put him in a prison jumpsuit, chain his hands, and then put him between two masked men who frogwalk him to a deportation plane, he would like like a criminal. The photos and videos of humans beings to whom this is done are dehumanizing, and deliberately so. We are meant to conclude from the images that these men must be "monsters" or "foreign alien terrorists." The only thing we should be concluding is that individuals associated with the foreign government are behaving in a way that is totally inconsistent with liberty under law.

    10. This deportation was planned as a political spectacle. The deportees were carefully chosen, as was the language used to describe them. The messaging was obviously coordinated in advance. And the entire humiliating procedure was carried out before cameras that were already in place. The videos that are being distributed are not some assemblage of footage caught haphazardly by cell phones. They are the result of fixed cameras, set in place in advance, with camera operators awaiting the action. The result is propaganda film worthy of the 1930s, in which the Leader determines what is true and what is false and who is human and who is not ("monsters") through a procedure of charismatic violence. If you watch these films, please consider that they are meant to draw you in to a politics of us and them, to a world of lying and hatred beyond law, to a new regime that can come to replace our republic -- but only with your assent.
     
    #159     Mar 17, 2025
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  10. Hello Nine_Ender,

    VERY great traders, and still my hero. Especial Stephen Cohen, he owns the Mets. Very good guy.

    Not my business if they caught breaking the law and went to jail. They are great traders, and I like great traders. Especially great RICH traders.
     
    #160     Mar 17, 2025