Nobel Peace Prize for Trump. Kim Jong Un in SOUTH Korea.

Poindexter · May 1, 2018

piezoe said:
What did Trump do, other than hurl childish insults, and then use inappropriate diplomatic language in saying "the two sides had his blessing..." after they announced they would seek détente (They don't need his blessing, anymore than they need mine or yours. they are sovereign nations.) Perhaps Trump is being credited for keeping his mouth shut for a few days. Most likely the UN sanctions together with behind the scenes pressure from North Korea's most important trading partner and permanent member of the UN Security Council, China, provided the impetus to move things along. Trump will take credit of course, despite having seldom said a good word about the UN and having been, on the campaign trail, a steadfast enemy of the UN.

There have been a total of nine rounds of sanctions against North Korea instituted by members of the UN Security Council against North Korea since 2006. Three of those nine rounds, amounting to further tightening of sanctions, took place after Trump took office, one each in August, September and December of 2017. Trump, who has relied on bullying and childish antics, has been an unabashed critic of the United Nations and now, after the approach of the Security Council appears to have succeeded, he, in typical braggadocious fashion, will take credit for something he has been distinctly unhelpful in achieving. The South Koreans will speak kindly of Trump of course, and Trump will be only too happy to take advantage of their cultural disposition toward good manners. But let's not kid ourselves, Trump's referring to Kim Jong-un as "Rocket Man," has not been helpful. If Trump had his way there would be no United Nations.

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piezoe said:
I'm not blind, and therefore I'm going to give credit to North and South Korea, China, and the The UN Security Council, which includes the U.S., China, Russian Federation, France, the United Kingdom and 10 other non-permanent nations. Trump's tweeting and name calling has been, at best, childish and unhelpful. The additional sanction measures placed on North Korea since Trump took office are a continuation of UN sanctions on North Korea in response to North Korea's nuclear tests. Each time NK has ramped up their testing, the Security Council has ramped up sanctions in response. There have been nine rounds of sanctions, two of which occurred after Trump took office. The U.S. has generally drafted the written text for these sanctions with suggestions and participation of the other Security Council Members. Trump, our singularly most dishonest President, regularly tries to take credit for others' accomplishments and to blame others for his own mistakes. It is a symptom of his severe personality disorder.
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Hotcakes · May 1, 2018

piezoe said:
I'm not blind, and therefore I'm going to give credit to North and South Korea, China, and the The UN Security Council, which includes the U.S., China, Russian Federation, France, the United Kingdom and 10 other non-permanent nations. Trump's tweeting and name calling has been, at best, childish and unhelpful. The additional sanction measures placed on North Korea since Trump took office are a continuation of UN sanctions on North Korea in response to North Korea's nuclear tests. Each time NK has ramped up their testing, the Security Council has ramped up sanctions in response. There have been nine rounds of sanctions, two of which occurred after Trump took office. The U.S. has generally drafted the written text for these sanctions with suggestions and participation of the other Security Council Members. Trump, our singularly most dishonest President, regularly tries to take credit for others' accomplishments and to blame others for his own mistakes. It is a symptom of his severe personality disorder.
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Ya, okay. Every metric is a first, in 65 years. I'm sure Trumps gun to the head of NK and Chinas balls over the proverbial barrel had nothing to do with it..... ? Something all the pussy-ass leaders failed to do before Trump. Are we on the same page here?

Slartibartfast · May 2, 2018

Poindexter said:
Paper trader -- the mission was to degrade Assad's ability to deploy chemical weapons while minimizing collateral damage and the likelihood of escalation. It was also a show of force.

If you doubt the latter, just pull up enough news accounts so you can plot where all the attacks were launched from, to the targets. Then look at a map of NK zoomed out at the same scale and imagine you're Fatboy who can only be in one place at one time.

Fatboy got the message, even if you're too stupid to see it.

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Fake Jew, a show of force for you.

Assad could give a shit it is just another in his long list of worries. Total bollocks theater for simpletons. Chlorine is incredibly easy to make, I could whip up some here. Simple chemistry man, as basic as it gets.

"Chlorine is produced by passing an electric current through a solution of brine (common salt dissolved in water). This process is called electrolysis. The chemical term for salt is sodium chloride (NaCl). "

Or just get swimming pool chlorine and mix it with hydrochloric (not exotic). It ain't Breaking Bad.

Dimwits like you cheering Donny for a meaningless spectacle are half the problem in the world. Take out Assad, that would be a bold move and something to roundly cheer but world leaders don't like using militaries to assassinate each other do they.

I estimate you IQ to be around 94-100. Fantasist liar and fake analyst plus Jew.. amaze us by graphing something in Excel again while missing an elephant in the trade room again (goods AND services). This is a trading site not a sand box.

"When I was a little kid we had a sand box. It was a quicksand box. I was an only child... eventually." Steven Wright

Poindexter · May 2, 2018

Slartibartfast said:
Fake Jew, a show of force for you.

Assad could give a shit it is just another in his long list of worries. Total bollocks theater for simpletons. Chlorine is incredibly easy to make, I could whip up some here. Simple chemistry man, as basic as it gets.

"Chlorine is produced by passing an electric current through a solution of brine (common salt dissolved in water). This process is called electrolysis. The chemical term for salt is sodium chloride (NaCl). "

Or just get swimming pool chlorine and mix it with hydrochloric (not exotic). It ain't Breaking Bad.

Dimwits like you cheering Donny for a meaningless spectacle are half the problem in the world. Take out Assad, that would be a bold move and something to roundly cheer but world leaders don't like using militaries to assassinate each other do they.

I estimate you IQ to be around 94-100. Fantasist liar and fake analyst plus Jew.. amaze us by graphing something in Excel again while missing an elephant in the trade room again (goods AND services). This is a trading site not a sand box.

"When I was a little kid we had a sand box. It was a quicksand box. I was an only child... eventually." Steven Wright
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Dude, you're even farther out of your depth on this than you are on making believable paper trading summaries.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-gun-rights-policy.319461/page-3#post-4630497

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/pope-francis-says-there-is-no-hell.319697/page-5#post-4633714

Cuddles · May 2, 2018

I hope the prize committee trolls him by denying him even if found deserving.

elderado · May 2, 2018

OMG liberals must be getting tired of SO MUCH WINNING!!!

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-releases-us-prisoners-2018-5

Oh, and who was the secretary of state under Obama? I forget. But I bet it was someone(s) who didn't get these poor souls OUT!

Slartibartfast · May 2, 2018

Poindexter said:
Dude, you're even farther out of your depth on this than you are on making believable paper trading summaries.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-gun-rights-policy.319461/page-3#post-4630497

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/pope-francis-says-there-is-no-hell.319697/page-5#post-4633714
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Says the non trader who thinks people make trading summaries. They are generated haha. Do you think people put figures into Excel and generate them manually?

Anyway, I am enjoying my holidays so whatever you are on about, I don't care, been out at about 9 pubs and clubs tonight and have a good time. Nice to have a break from the seriousness of making money.

Big hug.

NoodleStrudle · May 2, 2018

Why for Trump? Trump has done nothing so far other than announce a meeting which outcome is completely uncertain. NK and SK met and if they reunify at some point then the NP should be awarded to them not Trump. It's like saying a Brit or Frenchman or Russian should he award the Nobel Price of Peace because Germans reunited. Weird.

wilburbear said:
Multi-decade wait for this moment.
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NoodleStrudle · May 2, 2018

Credit for what? He has not brokered the meeting between NK and SK nor has he pressured anyone to meet. Nor has NK ended its nuclear program (yet) so I am confused what credit Trump deserves. Americans are just such emotional human beings with so little logic and rational. Sigh...

UsualName said:
I’m not a Trump fan, but if this works out, he will deserve a lot of the credit.

Just a fair warning on the North Koreans, be careful not to get too far out in front of this, they have a way balking when it’s disarmament time.

Also, our timeline is six months and they are talking about two years. Additionally, Trump has bashed the Iran deal so hard he can’t really settle for less from North Korea without looking stupid.

Anyway, it’s not a lay up but it’s not a long shot anymore either.
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NoodleStrudle · May 2, 2018

Exactly. Like with everything Trump takes credit for others' accomplishments. Nothing new here to see...

piezoe said:
What did Trump do, other than hurl childish insults, and then use inappropriate diplomatic language in saying "the two sides had his blessing..." after they announced they would seek détente (They don't need his blessing, anymore than they need mine or yours. they are sovereign nations.) Perhaps Trump is being credited for keeping his mouth shut for a few days. Most likely the UN sanctions together with behind the scenes pressure from North Korea's most important trading partner and permanent member of the UN Security Council, China, provided the impetus to move things along. Trump will take credit of course, despite having seldom said a good word about the UN and having been, on the campaign trail, a steadfast enemy of the UN.

There have been a total of nine rounds of sanctions against North Korea instituted by members of the UN Security Council against North Korea since 2006. Three of those nine rounds, amounting to further tightening of sanctions, took place after Trump took office, one each in August, September and December of 2017. Trump, who has relied on bullying and childish antics, has been an unabashed critic of the United Nations and now, after the approach of the Security Council appears to have succeeded, he, in typical braggadocious fashion, will take credit for something he has been distinctly unhelpful in achieving. The South Koreans will speak kindly of Trump of course, and Trump will be only too happy to take advantage of their cultural disposition toward good manners. But let's not kid ourselves, Trump's referring to Kim Jong-un as "Rocket Man," has not been helpful. If Trump had his way there would be no United Nations.

Here from Time Magazine (Sept. 2017) is a sample of Trump's waxing and waning opinions of the UN, tailored to his audience du jour:

He’s a ‘very big fan’ of the U.N.

Before he launched his political career, Trump testified in 2005 before a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs subcommittee to discuss the cost of renovating the U.N. headquarters in New York.
At the time, he said he was a “big fan” of the United Nations and said he had the Trump World Tower luxury apartment building constructed across the street from the U.N. because he liked it so much.

“I’m a big fan, a very big fan of the United Nations and all it stands for,” he said. “I can’t speak as to what’s been happening over the last number of years because it certainly hasn’t been good, but the concept of the United Nations and the fact that the United Nations is in New York is very important to me and very important to the world, as far as I am concerned.”

The U.N.’s marble tiles look ‘cheap’

In 2012, Trump took to Twitter to criticize an architectural detail of the United Nations interior, saying the 12-inch marble tiles look “cheap” and that he would replace them with larger marble slabs.

The U.N. is ‘not a friend of democracy’

During the 2016 presidential election, Trump spoke before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, arguing that the U.N. is “not a friend of democracy.” The comments came during the part of Trump’s speech that discussed the deal the Obama Administration made with Iran over its nuclear program. He shunned the U.N. at the time for “utter weakness and incompetence.”

“The United Nations is not a friend of democracy, it’s not a friend to freedom, it’s not a friend even to the United States of America where, as you know, it has its home. And it surely is not a friend to Israel … So with the president in his final year, discussions have been swirling about an attempt to bring a Security Council resolution on terms of an eventual agreement between Israel and Palestine. Let me be clear: An agreement imposed by the United Nations would be a total and complete disaster. The United States must oppose this resolution and use the power of our veto, which I will use as president 100 percent.”

The U.N. isn’t doing anything to end the big conflicts in the world, so you need an ambassador who would win by really shaking up the U.N.”

As president-elect, Trump promised in December of 2016 to shake up the U.N. saying ” things will be different after Jan. 20th” in a Dec. 23 tweet. His criticisms took on a harsher tone after the Obama Administration abstained from a U.N. Security Council vote on a resolution that condemned Israeli settlements in the West Bank. On Dec. 26, Trump said the body “has such great potential but right now it is just a club for people to get together, talk and have a good time. So sad!”

And now that nine rounds of tough UN sanctions have apparently had their intended effect, Donald Trump will be only too happy to step in and take credit for bringing the two Koreas together. The man is truly disgusting.

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