Sorry, another Covid thread :-)

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by BKR88, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    More bullshiat from RFK Jr. which has been proven to be absolutely false --- like all of his claims.
     
    #661     Oct 8, 2023
  2. BKR88

    BKR88

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    #662     Oct 8, 2023
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #663     Oct 8, 2023
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  4. BKR88

    BKR88

    Thanks for providing your proof. As predicted.
     
    #664     Oct 8, 2023
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #665     Oct 8, 2023
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    @gwb-trading already seen that you continue to post more misinformation by individuals like RFK even after others (someone like me) have posted proof that their so-called facts are incorrect, misinterpreted, or just LIES.

    You then move on to another topic as if what you had regurgitated wasn't important. Hey, that's your choice (your right) but it does show others here on the forum.

    New contradictory studies

    A 2022 study found that DTP decreased mortality in girls, and accused prior studies of being full of methodological and statistical errors.

    Another 2022 study said that DTP only increased mortality when it was administered long after another vaccine called BCG; when BCG and DTP were administered jointly, mortality decreased. Furthermore, the authors pointed out that the Danish and BMJ study draw on data from the 1980s through 2000s. Their own data, as well as the data of the other 2022 study, is based on vaccinations administered after 2010, when the negative nonspecific effects of DTP became widely known to doctors. They suggest that African and Asian vaccination programs have already changed the way they handle DTP.

    There has not yet been a meta-analysis of these studies, but it would be nice for RFK to get on top of these new scientific developments.

    In addition, you and RFK carefully ignore a key investigation component of infectious disease, immunology, virology, and bacteriology called confirmation bias.​

    Simply, children who get vaccinated are more likely to live in a situation where their health and life are recorded, and so if they die their death is more likely to be recorded as well. In 3rd world countries, a lot of people (and especially children) die without there being any record of it at all.

    This is proven in the military and those that frequently travel...both of which I know very well because I travel often and I'm an ex-military soldier who has lived abroad in areas that required vaccination because there's a disease problem in that area.

    Therefore, I completely understand why @gwb-trading calls out any misinformation/disinformation that you regurgitate as bullshit here at elitetrader.com

    Yet, we all know you'll just move on to something else like a monkey throwing lots of shit at the wall in hopes something will stick to the wall especially when you say "avoid all vaccines" when factually countries/communities that do not have access to vaccines have HIGHER INFANT DEATHS, and more health problems in their population.​

    Yet, something I have not seen you discuss, some countries do have higher mortality with the increasing number of vaccinations...the higher mortality is due to the fact that the countries do not have access to clean water, do not have access to proper nutrition, or improved sanitation, and have limited access to health care.

    Therefore, what you're doing is similar to walking into a theater and yelling FIRE...people run out in panic...they can get hurt or worse when someone gets stepped on or crushed against unmovable objects. That's what your free speech choice can do when you're yelling FIRE at a forum by saying "Avoid all vaccines".

    I think the above is what @Nine_Ender is trying to explain to you.

    wrbtrader
     
    #666     Oct 8, 2023
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  7. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You post streams of garbage on here most of which has no proof. By doing so, you reveal yourself to be basically uneducated in fields like science and math ( and of course medical science ). When confronted on it, you ask for others to prove the garbage is not real, or just get argumentative and defensive. Why on earth should you be allowed to operate like this it's dangerous to many to read this stuff.
     
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  8. BKR88

    BKR88

     
    #668     Oct 9, 2023
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  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    You're very stubborn because you're reposting the same shitty misinformation. Simply, exact same misinformation & disinformation data but from a different Covidiot. :D

    Here are the facts once again before you move on to a different topic involving the Pandemic, Covid-19, Vaccines, Government, WHO, or whatever.

    The initial statements in comparison to what's stated in the video are DIFFERENT.

    Here's the headliner of the link you posted: No lives saved by C19 vaccines, signed: The Real Science.

    In contrast, the regurgitated video (same old video from a different source) talks about "All-Causes Mortality (excess mortality)"...two different statements.

    The key is the initial statement is comparing NO LIVES SAVED to C19 VACCINES whereas the video is comparing ALL-CAUSES to C19 VACCINES. The latter compares thousands of different types of deaths in accumulation (e.g. automobile accidents, suicides, accidental drownings, workplace accidental deaths, cancer, sudden cardiac arrests, falling off of a rooftop, increasing murders, skyrocketing drug overdoses, heat-related deaths et cetera...data that also includes those not vaccinated)...

    The spikes occurred when businesses & schools in the entire world (not just a few countries) came out of lockdown...most of everything was open.

    Yet, to compare NO LIVES SAVED to C19 VACCINES in the Covidiot author's headliner statement...you can only compare Covid-19 Deaths (no other types of deaths listed above from All-Causes) to C19 Vaccines.

    I will repost the exact same charts as I did before when you initially posted the same info but you used a different source. This time I will include other data beyond Deaths. Data comparing Vaccines to confirmed cases and hospitalizations that I was too lazy to post with the prior Deaths chart.

    BKR88, do not run away (ignore) the below chart that shows what happened in the United States. If you're curious, similar charts in Canada and France in comparison to the United States were posted in another thread.

    United States Statistics by Vaccination Status

    Covid-19 Vaccines versus Covid-19 Deaths (Unvaccinated, Vaccinated, Boosted)

    The death rate among unvaccinated people is still far higher than that among the vaccinated even though vaccinated people now make up a significant proportion of deaths.

    United-States-Covid-Deaths-Vaccination-Status-2.png


    United-States-Covid-Deaths-Vaccination-Status.png


    United-States-Covid-Deaths-Versus-Vaccination.png

    The United States population is currently around 77% fully vaccinated. The below chart also shows an estimated model of the deaths/cases of the U.S. population beyond 77%.

    United-States-Covid-Deaths-Vaccination-Status-1.png

    Covid-10 Vaccines versus Covid Hospitalizations

    United-States-Covid-Hospitalization-Versus-Vaccination.png

    The United States 2022 - 2023

    United-States-Covid-Hospitalization-Versus-Vaccination-1.png

    Covid-10 Vaccines versus Covid-19 Confirmed Cases

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    Covid-19 Deaths versus All Cause Mortality (aka Excess Deaths)

    All-Cause-Mortality-United-States-1.png

    I will repost the same charts again (Vaccines versus Covid-19 Deaths/Hospitalization/Confirmed Cases) when you use a different Covidiot source to repost the same misinformation/disinformation.

    Once again as stated, you're reposting the same misinformation/disinformation but now you're using different Covidiots as your source.

    Thus, you became lost in that rabbit hole you fell into.

    Yet, I do understand it is tougher to find updated data for comparing Covid Deaths/Hospitalization/Confirmed Cases by vaccination status considering most individual states/counties/cities/hospitals maintain their own data. Simply, they are no longer required to share the data with the government...could be the reason why you're regurgitating old misinformation/disinformation.

    Can I guess what your next redirection misinformation (a monkey throwing more shit at the wall...to see if something can stick to the wall) message post will be about ??? Nope

    By the way, happy Indigenous Peoples' Day (formerly known as Columbus Day)...enjoy your day off from the financial markets.

    wrbtrader
     
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  10. BKR88

    BKR88

     
    #670     Oct 11, 2023