Sorry, another Covid thread :-)

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by BKR88, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. BKR88

    BKR88

     
    #641     Sep 30, 2023
  2. BKR88

    BKR88



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    #642     Sep 30, 2023
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    The largest peer-reviewed study to date in the United States versus your continuation of using hearsay statements from anti-vaxxers:

    Comparing cancers in Vaccinated Americans versus cancers in Unvaccinated Americans.

    Findings

    The analysis included 2486 patients, of which 564 and 385 had received 2 or 3 doses of an mRNA vaccine prior to infection, respectively. Hematologic malignancies and recent receipt of systemic anti-neoplastic therapy were more frequent among vaccinated patients. Vaccination was associated with improved outcomes...

    Results

    Based on eligibility criteria, 2486 patients with cancer and COVID-19 were included in the present study (Supplementary Table S3). Of these, 564 (23%) and 385 (15%) patients were administered 2 and 3 doses of mRNA vaccines prior to COVID-19, respectively, while 1537 patients (62%) had no recorded receipt of any vaccination prior to COVID-19. Baseline clinical characteristics stratified by vaccination status are shown in Table 1. Among all patients included, 1400 (56%) were female, and 1580 (64%) were non-Hispanic white.

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    Oh, wait...

    If you don't like peer-reviewed studies that show vaccinated individuals have fewer cancers than unvaccinated individuals...

    Take a look at the real-world data from the American Cancer Society. I picked "Leukemia" only because I had a neighbor who died from "Leukemia" and she was not vaccinated. Simply, COVID vaccination did not cause her death.

    Top 10 states in America with "Leukemia"
    1. Florida
    2. California
    3. Texas
    4. New York
    5. Pennsylvania
    6. North Carolina
    7. Illinois
    8. Ohio
    9. Michigan
    10. New Jersey
    Top 10 states in America by Vaccination Rates
    1. District of Columbia
    2. Rhode Island
    3. Vermont
    4. Massachusetts
    5. Maine
    6. Connecticut
    7. Hawaii
    8. New York
    9. Maryland
    10. New Jersey
    Only a blind idiot would not be able to see that the top vaccinated states in America are not among the top states with "Leukemia" except for New York & New Jersey.

    Your misinformation/disinformation is further exposed involving the link you posted to a Twitter source that talks about the following...

    "There is evidence that cancers are occurring in excess after people receive COVID-19 vaccinations" - Dr. Risch​

    He goes on to talk about Colon Cancer. Yet, he intentionally does not mention that more than half of all cases and deaths are attributable to modifiable risk factors, such as smoking, an unhealthy diet, high alcohol consumption, physical inactivity, and excess body weight.

    Just as important, he does not discuss the attributable risk factors of those specific patients (e.g. 25 year olds he mentions). Also, he does not discuss that the screening rate during the Pandemic dropped below 50% (people were not seeking medical care/screening) in comparison to now increasing 25% more after the Pandemic, as in, more cancers are being found.
    • In fact, thousands of life-saving, preventive screenings that were canceled or postponed during the Pandemic would have minimized colon cancer cases and deaths that we're seeing today.
    In addition, he ignores the obvious...the base rate fallacy becomes a well-known factor among virologists, infection disease experts, and immunologists that mathematically shows the statistics of a highly vaccinated city, state, or country. For example, if EVERY PERSON in the state of New York was vaccinated...you can not blame Vaccines as a cause of Cancer just as much as you can not blame wearing Tight Fitting Jeans as a cause of Cancer.

    Another example, we all know people were less active, smoking more, increasing unhealthy diets, and higher alcohol consumption during the Pandemic (e.g. the shutdowns)...all of these are risk factors for Colon Cancer.

    Last of all, he refuses to acknowledge the well-known fact that viral infections increase the incidence rate of Colon Cancers. Simply, there's a reason why he NEVER mentions that globally there have been +770 million Covid infections.

    It's the main reason why he does not maintain his own statistics on the vaccination status of Colon Cancer patients.

    Quick summary,
    not vaccinated cancer patients outnumber the vaccinated cancer patients. That's an amazing statistic considering there are more vaccinated individuals in New York and the United States in comparison to those not vaccinated. This punches a big hole in the misinformation/disinformation game of anti-vaxxers about cancers.

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    #643     Oct 1, 2023
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  4. BKR88

    BKR88

    More doctors in various countries are speaking out.
     
    #644     Oct 1, 2023
  5. BKR88

    BKR88

    "17,000 Scientists and Physicians confirm that Governments around the world along with Corporations willfully and deliberately lied to humanity about the Covid vaccines."

    "A top U.S. Cardiologist says I'm going to be very clear about this. The Vaccine is Killing people and it's Killing large numbers of people. The CDC has over 16,000 Americans that have died within a few days of taking the vaccine and that's probably a gross underreporting."

    "This was not a mistake, this was a deliberate orchestrated plan to deceive you and manipulate you into taking a toxic experimental injection that was never given to humans before. Millions are injured and millions are dead."

     
    #645     Oct 1, 2023
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    What a complete bunch of crap from the anti-vax idiots. The Covid vaccine is not killing large numbers of people. It saved over a million lives in the U.S. alone.
     
    #646     Oct 1, 2023
  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    BKR88 is re-posting misinformation/disinformation from Dr. Peter McCullough, a Dallas cardiologist and outspoken anti-vaxxer. He stated the following back in January 2023...

    “The vaccine is killing people,” he states in a video on Instagram clipped from a podcast on which he appeared. “And it’s killing large numbers of people. It fulfills all the criteria for the Bradford Hill tenets of causality for a medicinal product causing death. Our CDC, as of Dec. 23, 2022, has over 16,000 Americans that have died within a few days of taking the vaccine and that’s probably a gross underreport.”

    News media, cardiologist associations, and vaccine proponents have asked Dr. Peter McCullough many times to verify his claims...he has refused to comment.

    Regardless, Dr. Peter McCullough most likely is using the unverified data from VAERS. Reminder, although VAERS are unconfirmed reports...let us pretend it is verified. VAERS does not distinguish if a vaccinated person has co-morbidities, had cancer or any other disease when vaccinated, or had Covid-19 in the Pandemic.

    VAERS is a system that is passive, meaning people self-report their information. Health care providers and manufacturers are also required to submit adverse responses reported after vaccines, even if they don’t know whether the vaccine caused them.​

    By the way, states in the U.S. with the lowest cancer rates are not among the states with the lowest vaccination rates. In fact, some of the states with the lowest cancer rates are among the states with the highest vaccination rates.

    Also, the American Cancer Society does not use unconfirmed statistics/unverified data.

    Last of all, Covid vaccines had a cumulative effect of preventing more than 18 million additional hospitalizations and more than 3 million additional deaths. Further, the United States COVID vaccination program has saved the U.S. more than $1 trillion in medical costs, has preserved hospital resources, kept children in school, and allowed for the reopening of businesses and other activities after the initial lockdowns.

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    P.S. It does make me wonder why BKR88 is reposting misinformation/disinformation from January 2023.

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  8. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You're obviously a very ignorant person. However, your repeated posting of misinformation crosses over into deliberately evil territory. You really should be banned from this site along with the others who continually post misinformation on this site.
     
    #648     Oct 2, 2023
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  9. BKR88

    BKR88

    I give you credit for providing substance for your arguments unlike the other LIB attackers that provide nothing but name calling & blah, blah, blah. ZERO content. My *opinions* are usually data/opinions from doctors/scientists/virologists.

    That being said, you have your *facts* and I have mine. You're free to follow the people you want and I'll do the same. You say doctors like Peter McCullough spread misinformation yet you follow the proven corrupt CDC/FDA/Fauci. Why do all your gurus run & hide when confronted by real doctors? They only talk to biased MSM. Why will none of your gurus have a discussion with reputable doctors that I follow? They were offered $1M to discuss & nothing buy crickets. They know the data is NOT on their side & they'd look like fools.
    Why did PFE go to court to try hiding their data for 75 YEARS? If it's so good why not share for all doctors to review even BEFORE the jabs were approved? They KNOW it's crap. Why did they send a special batch to AUS to give to PFE employees when they were required to get jabbed? Because PFE employees KNOW it's crap despite PFE's lame excuse they gave.

    Why do LIBS think any opinion they disagree with is *misinformation* & should be silenced/censored? Where does the constitution say opposing opinions are not allowed? Fortunately Baron believes in free speech unlike Facebook/IG/Google/etc.. where I'd be banned for life. You providing google search results is funny. They're so biased it's like getting an opinion about Trump from a LIB.

    Get your 7th/8th jab if you think that poison will save you from this boogieman virus. Demand for the jabs will be so great this fall they'll be offering BOGO specials as many are waking up to the truth.

    ***Feel free to continue providing your opposing opinions. I believe in free speech even when I completely disagree with the opinion.

    ***BTW, this is all about WEF & their depopulation/Great Reset/New World Order plans. The border invasion is part of it also. You'll see someday unless their plan gets halted because their plan is being exposed.

    :)

     
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    #649     Oct 2, 2023
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  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again, the "doctors" you quote as your sources:
    Keep in mind that Covid misinformation caused over 230,000 deaths in the U.S. which were preventable and millions of deaths world-wide. People who fabricate and actively spread Covid misinformation are basically murderers -- there is no other polite way to state it.
     
    #650     Oct 2, 2023