American stubbornness and denial is why there's more cases and deaths per capita here than any other country. What will it take before people do what doctors tell them to re masks and distancing?? Answer is they won't,, even as deaths skyrocket. On their tombstones will read R.I.P. Stubborn Sam "Didn't wear a mask cuz it's uncomfortable " Deniers wake the fuck up. Look at the news. See my wildly popular dumb af recent thread https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/coronavirus-debate-why-are-americans-dumb-as-fck.346473/
Wow. By the time you amend the Constitution to allow for all of that it would likely be long after this has passed. Unless you plan to nullify the Constitution right way then I guess you could do whatever you want. There could be an institution or two that would resist that but anything can be overcome with a large enough mob.
It's a DEADLY PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY. Killing thousands daily. Nobody's trying to infringe on constitutional rights... wtf If you are in a freeway accident and the cop tells you to get off the road he's not infringing on your rights either. It's an emergency situation
Let’s explore this idea further, perhaps partially relating the antivaxxer position with the antiPPE position. What is appropriate policy when there is a threat that has the potential to adversely affect most members of a community at some point of their lives, but some members refuse to take action that could protect the community? We still have the luxury of being selfish bastards as Covid-19 is not that bad, especially compared to the Filaviruses(Includes various Ebola strains), smallpox, SARs-MERS strain, and other ever mutating influenza strains. Still, we are not talking about the rights of select groups here. We are talking about the health of our entire connected global community. Why should we feel it’s wrong to punish those who are willing to put other people’s health at risk, especially over a relatively little inconvenience? My right to not wear a facemask is more important than your right to expect to live in a reasonably safe community? More important than your chance to get a potentially disabling or lethal disease? At least the antivaxxers have more of a basis for their concerns. For example, having foreign proteins injected into your bloodstream likely suppresses general immune response to other viruses. Further, preservatives that include mercury are part of the vaccine and may be more likely to cause adverse reactions in small children. Another school of thought is to never take protective measures against a new virus. Let nature take its course and weed out the weaker resource consuming members of our society. Over time, our species will probably become hardier and even more virile. For the cost of a few lives, some extra suffering, and economic growth, we all can do whatever the fook we want, even it is not seemingly in our best interest. What is the point of being an organized society if we don’t require members to protect each other? Or, Perhaps we should explore what protection against disease should really mean? Avoidence of infection or culling out the weak, thereby letting those with strong immune systems be our answer to future emerging virus threats. What is your choice?
My choice is a local choice based upon local data. Death has unfortunately claimed 207 people in my state during the "pandemic". Based on that I would completely reopen the state, start school on time in the fall and encourage masks where social distancing is limited. I would not economically punish 4,301,000 people in this state to protect a tiny fraction of the population. Greater good and all that. Economic shutdown is racist because it harms non-whites disproportionately.
Oy! The amount of mercury you might get from a lifetime of vaccines is less than you'd get from a couple of cans of tuna. It blows my mind how wimpy the world has become when it comes to health. As has been mentioned before by me and many others here... When we were kids we ate dirt, licked shit we did not know was shit, swallowed rocks. We ate grass, flowers, out own snot, licked our fingers after digging in the sand. That builds up the immune system. Shit, we even, GOD FORBID, breast-fed on our mommy teats. That sends you a shitload of bacteria to jumpstart your system, along with all the other good stuff like colostrum and lipids, carbs, etc. The FACK is wrong with people these days?!? Get the vaccine! You'll survive! P.S. And let me say this...If that smallpox ever comes back, all you poor sots who were not lucky enough to get the vaccine are fucked. It will rip the shit out of a generation.
Is there really such a thing as a “Local” choice in our highly mobile society? Remember, Wuhan food market outbreak to global pandemic in a matter of months. Combining an incubation period of twice as long as influenza(Up to 14 day incubation), asymptomatic infection of others, and a short duration of reinfection for a victim, makes this novel virus a greater challenge to contain. Again, Coronavirus is more dangerous than influenza. Please rate the economic impact of the following policies: 1. Mandatory shutdown with travel restrictions. 2. Enforced requirement to wear PPE. Edit: In public, at work, and in schools. Some say freedom is not free. If we are to rid of our planet of this virus, we as a society need to pay the price. A price not of our limbs or lives, a price of inconvenience. You agree?
Eating the dirt, etc. as a child could be considered ones vaccination, right? Children do die of viruses, but you can always make more, like they did before vaccines were invented. Make 8 kids and get 2 or 3 “Keepers”. By the way, I’ve put forth part of the antivaxxer argument without meaning to imply I gave it full merit. Please note how I worded this in my post that you responded to.