Saudi Uproar

Discussion in 'Politics' started by dealmaker, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    The outrage is they killed one of ours. Yes a permanent resident is only 5 years from being a citizen, but he's been vetted and accepted to become one of us. He had 3 citizen kids and was working on one of the most premiere news outlet exposing these assholes.

    It's not like he went into Saudi and started talking shit. He was lured into another sovereign country and murdered by a hit squad on orders from one of their topmost officials. That in of itself should be enough of an outrage, but what's worse is we've got a clown as a leader slobbering on MBS unwashed balls.

    https://qz.com/1428499/jamal-khashoggi-what-trump-owes-khashoggi-under-us-law-and-constitution/

    Khashoggi was living in the United States on an “O” visa, according to his employer the Washington Post. Also known as the “genius” visa, the O offers individuals of “extraordinary ability and achievement” temporary residence for up to three years. Three of Khashoggi’s children are US citizens, and he is believed to have been applying for a legal permanent residence in the US, also known as a green card.

    US citizens who live or travel overseas can expect aid from the US State Department, as part of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, a 1963 treaty. Lawful permanent residents (LPR), or green card holders “generally are not entitled to emergency and protective services provided by the U.S. Government,” the US statue says, except “when an LPR applicant has exceptionally close and strong ties to the United States, and overriding humanitarian and compassionate grounds exist.”

    However, US intelligence agencies do have a clear “duty to warn” any individual, US citizen or not, of any known violent threats against them. A 2015 directive to the National Security Act, issued by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, requires the US to give “non-US persons” notice of “impending threats of intentional killing, serious bodily injury, or kidnapping.”

    An IC element that collects or acquires credible and specific information indicating an impending threat of intentional killing, serious bodily injury, or kidnapping directed at a person or group of people (hereafter referred to as intended victim) shall have a duty to warn the intended victim or those responsible for protecting the intended victim, as appropriate. This includes threats where the target is an institution, place of business, structure, or location. The term intended victim includes both U.S. persons, as defined in EO 12333, Section 3.5(k), and non-U.S. persons.

    The US knew that Khashoggi was a target. US intelligence agents intercepted a plan to lure Khashoggi back to to the US, the Washington Post reported Oct. 10. An unnamed National Security Agency official also told the Observer’s John Schindler that US intelligence had learned that Riyadh “had something unpleasant in store for Khashoggi,” at least a day before Khashoggi went to the embassy in Istanbul. The “threat warning was communicated to the White House through official intelligence channels,” Schindler writes, but it’s not clear whether Khashoggi ever received the warning.

    The Office of the Director of National Intelligence has refused to comment on why Khashoggi was not warned.
     
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    #81     Oct 22, 2018
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  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...b92bd0-d306-11e8-b2d2-f397227b43f0_story.html

    Conservatives mount a whisper campaign smearing Khashoggi in defense of Trump

    Hard-line Republicans and conservative commentators are mounting a whispering campaign against Jamal Khashoggi that is designed to protect President Trump from criticism of his handling of the dissident journalist’s alleged murder by operatives of Saudi Arabia — and support Trump’s continued aversion to a forceful response to the oil-rich desert kingdom.

    In recent days, a cadre of conservative House Republicans allied with Trump has been privately exchanging articles from right-wing outlets that fuel suspicion of Khashoggi, highlighting his association with the Muslim Brotherhood in his youth and raising conspiratorial questions about his work decades ago as an embedded reporter covering Osama bin Laden, according to four GOP officials involved in the discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly.
     
    #82     Oct 22, 2018
  3. "What is thuggery?" Alex, for 200 points.
     
    #83     Oct 22, 2018
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  4. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    Alex I’ll take movies for 1000. “ What is dumb and dumber”
     
    #84     Oct 22, 2018
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  5. I am curious what all these experts in the media who are demanding we do something would have us do. Maybe we could turn SA into some version of Libya. Would that satisfy them? Or whoever is paying them to push this?

    China has a human rights record that makes SA look like Switzerland, yet all we hear is how we shouldn't challenge their merchantilist trade policies.
     
    #85     Oct 22, 2018
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    "What is thuggery?" Alex, for 1000 points.

     
    #86     Oct 22, 2018
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    #87     Oct 22, 2018
  8. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Yup - it's all Trump's fault..
    you leftists are deranged.
     
    #88     Oct 22, 2018
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  9. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    Cmon guys this isn’t about street thugs, a journalist being killed in a Mexican drug infested town or even human rights violation within your own borders. Its never Trumps fault...Alex ill take who’s fault is it for 200.... lol Fred take stab you know the answer
     
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    #89     Oct 22, 2018
  10. That wouldn't be sportsmanlike; too easy.

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    #90     Oct 22, 2018