Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Of course it is. Ever read the fictional book "The Bear and the Dragon"?
     
    #1631     Mar 3, 2022
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    And what's your solution? Keep sending armaments until Ukraine is a complete wasteland and all of her people are dead or living abroad as refugee's? Do you realize one errant missile or something else could snowball into WW3? Do you really want that?

    You're making an assumption that Putin will press on. I'm saying he won't. But one thing is unarguable here, that place is an ember sitting atop a powder keg that... trust me... we don't want to go off.
     
    #1632     Mar 3, 2022
  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    This is levels of Neville Chamberlain beyond Neville Chamberlain on steroids. This Neville Chamberlain with infinity rings.

    It may not be for you but people will instinctively fight to protect their land. People don’t want their families subjected to oppression and tyranny. The Ukrainians are in a noble fight. They should never surrender.
     
    #1633     Mar 3, 2022
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  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    Can’t say I have. What’s the relevance?
     
    #1634     Mar 3, 2022
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Yes, he does. He's all but stated that several times thus far with insisting we get into a shooting war with Russia.

    Putin isn't going to press on. And even if he wanted to (he doesn't) he doesn't have the ability to do so logistically. Everyone knows this.
     
    #1635     Mar 3, 2022
  6. Correct. Nato would still be divided and just flopping around trying to figure out what their role in the world is. Because they would not have been unified by an outright attack by Putin.

    Only one person in this world has united Nato. And that is Vladimir Putin - not Joe Biden.

    If you voted for Biden, you voted for the invasion of Ukraine. 100% discussed and 100% predictable, now 100% in progress.
     
    #1636     Mar 3, 2022
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    Yes.
     
    #1637     Mar 3, 2022
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Putin told the President of France he will press on -- no matter what.

    I would urge you to read this...
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/russia-ukraine.364278/page-159#post-5555042
     
    #1638     Mar 3, 2022
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Just a fictional account of how China realizes eventually that it wants to take parts of Russia that border China and the resources of those areas on the premise that these areas are "ethnically close to China" rather than Russia. Seems rather similar to Putin's justification.

    Ironically, it is this military incursion that China launches on to Russia that actually has Russia ask for help from..wait for it...the US and NATO.
     
    #1639     Mar 3, 2022
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ok, then my comment stands.

    You know, our conversations seem to be moving in the right direction on civility. I'd ask they continue so if you wouldn't mind not making our posts go "round and round" (like you used to complain about, if memory serves) that'd be a humble request.
     
    #1640     Mar 3, 2022