Market has topped on 2019/11/07. Get the hell out now.

Discussion in 'Trading' started by noddyboy, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Soon it will be time to short.
     
    #111     Nov 15, 2019
  2. How do you measure "soon" in a trading system? If I can't measure it and calculate it I don't use it.
     
    #112     Nov 15, 2019
  3. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    When VIX hits under 12
     
    #113     Nov 15, 2019
  4. ironchef

    ironchef

    Why 12?
     
    #114     Nov 15, 2019
  5. TommyR

    TommyR

    8-9 is the level to be MAX long
     
    #115     Nov 16, 2019
  6. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    oops
     
    #116     Nov 16, 2019
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    There's one problem with this idea...VIX may drop to only 11 or so before it spikes back up into the 20s. So while waiting for the absolute bottom, you might miss the bottom entirely.
     
    #117     Nov 16, 2019
  8. Has anyone back tested using VIX as an indicator for going long or short the market? From what I've read it's a very poor indicator of tops and bottoms.
     
    #118     Nov 16, 2019
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    I think it would be better to think of VIX not as an indicator of a top or bottom of the SP, or an indicator of near-term equity movements, but rather the comfort level of sentiment.

    Right now, the VIX is in the bottom of it's historical range. I've been following an options trader and what he does, and he's been bemoaning this low volatility environment we've been in for a while now. All the options he follows are currently low vola, and he thrives when vola is much higher than it currently is.

    I've been keeping an eye on the correlation between VX future, bonds and the equity indices, and so far no joy.

    But I AM noticing that the VIX is looking like a good place to long now. Might take some heat for a while for as long as it stays low, but for sure the thing is going to pop up again. It is inevitable.

    Too bad I do not yet understand the contango of the different VX expirations vs $VIX.

    Looks like November VX is rolling to December, and the Nov VX is dropping quickly now. Dec not so much. Like a 2 point spread IIRC as of yesterday.
     
    #119     Nov 16, 2019
  10. You may want to check out www.volatilitytradingstrategies.com
     
    #120     Nov 16, 2019