It's tough to say via looking at only the current governor of a state or mayor of a city without knowing the specifics of the gun laws in the same state / city of a prior party in control when the party changes leadership. For example, if a party had no mass shootings and then switches parties in which gets 1 mass shooting...that current party may be looked at as having no restrictive gun laws when in fact it was the prior party they have have been in control many years with no restrictive gun laws. Some places are obvious (e.g. California) while others not so obvious like Georgia that has a very large democratic population but a Republican Governor. Then there's the "easy migration" issues behind gun laws. A lot of people will move or know people in other states with less restrictive gun laws...legally purchase their guns from someone in another state. I know a lot of people in Chicago that legally purchase their guns from Indiana, South Dakota, Iowa, Kentucky and Wisconsin. This has been a fact since the Al Capone days. It's an example of a problematic violent Democratic city that legally get their weapons from nearby Republican states. The migration issue involving gun ownership, violence and mass shootings very complicated. A republican his/her entire voting life in a red state...then moves to democratic state...causes violence...that democratic state gets the statistics and vice versa. Many decades ago...they use to blame violence in states on the Military (states with the most military bases), appointed judges their political party and even Rock n Roll. I'm serious about the latter... They had statistics that states whom played the most Rock n Roll on their airwaves...those states tend to be more violent. In fact, many people actually feared Elvis Presley...they thought their would be mass shootings, mass rapes, mass crime if their teenagers listen to his music...it was a threat to their moral well being that would eventually result in violence. My old man use to tell me when he was a teenager...him and his friends would go out into the corn fields with their portable radios, cigarettes and play Rock n Roll in secrecy. Glad we've moved away from blaming Elvis with all the violence. wrbtrader
You make some good points. One obvious problem is that we are still in mode of "finding fault" and "who to blame" politically when it comes to guns and mass shootings in America. We have not arrived at the point where we are collectively working to come up with a reasonable solution to address the issue of mass shootings in America. I have previously put forward my thoughts on "reasonable gun control" on older threads --- but the only thing obvious in the U.S. is there is a great divide and no consensus on the issue -- at this point there is not even agreement on if there is a problem & if yes, then what is the cause to be addressed. Much less the current context of using each mass shooting event as nothing more than an opportunity to "score" political points and to fund raise for politicians. EDIT - Here is one of my previous posts on gun control https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...victims-police-say.318269/page-8#post-4606411
Cities have more crime than rural areas. What major city is run by GOP for a long period of time? Let me guess, you are going to cite a study that says planes that are more crowded have more fatalities when they crash.... GENIUS! Colorado it is legal to carry guns.... so where were you heroes with guns? Georgia has easy laws to own a gun? Why didn't that stop the mass shooting??? You do realize that you made an argument that is 100% full of shit because in CO and GA, the right to carry arms did not stop the mass shootings... I love how easy it is for your ilk to ignore the fact that 10 people got shot and killed and claim it is because of democratic mayors....... EXPLAIN TO ME THEN THE GUN LAWS IN CO AND GA????? We will wait while you move the goal posts and dig out of your hole.
Colorado is an open carry state.....without a license... Open carry, as well as possession of a handgun either openly displayed or concealed in an automobile, is generally permitted without a license. However, local governments may prohibit open carry to a limited extent only in areas that are directly under the jurisdiction of the municipality such as municipal buildings, police stations, etc explain to me again how this policy is the reason we have mass shooting events in Colorado... go ahead I will wait for your bullshit truck to back up
To your point about local governments restricting state laws in their jurisdiction, here is Boulder and its restrictions: https://library.municode.com/co/boulder/codes/municipal_code?nodeId=TIT5GEOF_CH8WE_5-8-3DIFI
Boulder has an endless list of firearm restrictions. Let's take a look at a few from the lengthy list: 5-8-8. - Possession of Loaded Firearms. (a) Except as set forth in this chapter, no person shall possess a loaded firearm or a loaded gas or mechanically operated gun. You can't even have a loaded firearm in Boulder. 5-8-18. - Unlawful Storage of Assault Weapons. (a) No person shall store, control or possess any assault weapon within any premises of which that person has an ownership interest, custody or control, in such a manner that the person knows, or has constructive knowledge, that a minor is likely to gain possession of the assault weapon and in fact does obtain possession of the assault weapon. Fails to even define what is define what an assault weapon is... and then effectively bans them from every premise if there is any possibility of a minor including one that does not live in the household getting access to it. But, of course, assault weapons are totally banned in this below section. How was the shooter even able to obtain one in Boulder. 5-8-28. - Assault Weapons. (a) Any person who, prior to June 15, 2018, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have until December 31, 2018 to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution: (1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the City of Boulder; (2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; (3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the Boulder Police Department for destruction; or (4) If eligible, obtain a certificate for the assault weapon as provided in subsection (c). (b) Any person who, prior to June 15, 2018, was legally in possession of multi-burst trigger activator shall have until July 15, 2018 to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution: (1) Remove the multi-burst trigger activator from the City of Boulder; or (2) Surrender the multi-burst trigger activator to the Boulder Police Department for destruction. (c) Any person seeking to certify an assault weapon that he or she legally possessed prior to June 15, 2018 must comply with the following requirements: (1) Submit to a background check conducted by the appropriate law enforcement agency to confirm that he or she is not prohibited to possess a firearm pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 922 or C.R.S § 18-12-108; (2) Prior to December 31, 2018 apply for a certificate for the assault weapon from the Boulder Police Department; (3) No person prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a firearm shall be issued a certificate. (d) Any person issued a certificate shall: (1) Safely and securely store the assault weapon pursuant to the regulations adopted by the appropriate law enforcement agency; (2) Possess the assault weapon only on property owned or immediately controlled by the person, or while on the premises of a licensed gunsmith for the purpose of lawful repair, or while engaged in the legal use of the assault weapon at a duly licensed firing range, or while traveling to or from these locations, provided that the assault weapon is stored unloaded in a locked container during transport. The term "locked container" does not include the utility compartment, glove compartment, or trunk of a motor vehicle; and (3) Report the loss or theft of a certified assault weapon to the appropriate law enforcement agency within 48 hours of the time the discovery was made or should have been made. (e) If a certified assault weapon is used in the commission of a crime, the owner shall be civilly liable for any damages resulting from that crime. The liability imposed by this subsection shall not apply if the assault weapon was stolen and the certified owner reported the theft of the firearm to law enforcement within 48 hours of the time the discovery was made or should have been made. (f) Certified assault weapons may not be purchased, sold or transferred in the City of Boulder, except for transfer to a licensed gunsmith for the purpose of lawful repair, or transfer to the appropriate law enforcement agency for the purpose of surrendering the assault weapon for destruction. (g) Persons acquiring an assault weapon by inheritance, bequest, or succession shall, within 90 days of acquiring title, do one of the following: (1) Modify the assault weapon to render it permanently inoperable; (2) Surrender the assault weapon to the Boulder Police Department for destruction; (3) Transfer the assault weapon to a firearms dealer who is properly licensed under federal, state and local laws; or (4) Permanently remove the assault weapon from the City of Boulder. (h) The owner of a certified assault weapon may not possess in the City of Boulder any assault weapons purchased after June 15, 2018. (i) The city manager shall charge a fee for each certificate sufficient to cover the costs of administering the certificate program. (j) The city manager shall issue to qualified applicants two original copies of each certificate issued. The City of Boulder shall not maintain any records of certificates issued. The person receiving the certificate shall keep one copy with the weapon certified and the second copy in a secure place to replace the certificate maintained with the weapon. Ordinance Nos. 7299 (2003); 8245 (2018) ; 8259 (2018)
Says you cannot have a loaded or concealed weapon... does not say you cannot carry your weapon in a holster and carry a clip on you.
Nice try The Concealed Carry Act allows a person with a permit to carry a concealed weapon "in all areas of the state" with the exception of some federal properties, K-12 schools, and buildings with fixed security checkpoints such as courthouses, and also disallows a local government from enforcing an ordinance or resolution that conflicts with the law.[10]