Is it possible to time the market?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by crashdummy847, Oct 23, 2021.

  1. userque

    userque

    #11     Oct 23, 2021
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  2. To be fair, guys in the hft space, have win rates around 51-53%.

    The problem with having a low win rate is that it means that overtime you will go bankrupt. This is because you don’t not know the actual return on your trade until you close it — so you would need to see what the actual returns look like. This type of trading only works in volatile markets, otherwise the average price swings are too small to make returns that compensate you for the negative skew. Most traders get this intuitively but just explaining for newbies.
     
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    #12     Oct 23, 2021
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  3. Leob

    Leob

    And when you focus on it, you found the details to get even better then 50%.
    You must have patience but in position....
    You #1 goal is to be break even or close to that.
    If you really execute your trade with believe in the truth that nobody can predict the future. Break even is your best friend. Even more in scalping.
    20% losers 30%break even 50%winers.
    20% Losers when 50% are partial losses..
    High yieald trading per day.
     
    #13     Oct 23, 2021
  4. schizo

    schizo

    This is actually a very good quote. Winners are those who can last the longest, namely, to live to trade another day. Also, it's more important to MANAGE your trade (eg. knowing when to get out when you're wrong) than to TIME your trade.
     
    #14     Oct 23, 2021
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  5. thecoder

    thecoder

    My 2 cents:
    Specialize on announced upcoming events (D-Day), and focus on & prepare for that D-Day...
    For example Earnings Release dates, Dividend dates, FDA decision dates etc...
    Such dates are well known in advance, so one can prepare for it... :)
     
    #15     Oct 23, 2021
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  6. look there are beter ways to make money. I
     
    #16     Oct 23, 2021
  7. yuse your fucking head
     
    #17     Oct 23, 2021
  8. comagnum

    comagnum

    Yes - it is possible but not easy to time the mkt at the big turns, there are often patterns that are similiar through history.

    Win rates mean virtually nada, what wins the game is the sum of how much you make when right minus when wrong. Traders can & do go bust with win rates of 90% while some make fortunes at 25-30%.
     
    #18     Oct 23, 2021
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  9. Leob

    Leob

    There is no one book with this insight.
    You must trade and reflect to eliminate the "pop trading" wisdom....
     
    #19     Oct 23, 2021
  10. what wins is the dude works hard not us imeciles who think can make money on the internet
     
    #20     Oct 23, 2021