How to learn to trade?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by Mikkel, Sep 11, 2015.

  1. Mikkel

    Mikkel

    Thank you! I'll try with eod
     
    #31     Sep 13, 2015
  2. Mikkel

    Mikkel

    I don't know what a fluke is, I know the technical words in spanish (I know that I have to learn their english translation :wtf:ops:) Could you explain it?
     
    #32     Sep 13, 2015
  3. Well your in a better position than when I started. You had to be glued to a computer and minimum account deposit was 5k, leverage was crap and the commissions where high.

    Now you can trade from your smartphone with ultra low commissions, low starting balance and trade very small size to learn. I wish you the best of luck, you have the right attitude and the tools are available so good luck my friend :cool:
     
    #33     Sep 13, 2015
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  4. Mikkel

    Mikkel

    Thank you very much! I have the tools, now I have to use them haha
     
    #34     Sep 13, 2015
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  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I will repeat...do not trade now (simulate or real money). You're about a year or more away from such.

    In contrast, you're at the University and should be continuing your education while learning as much information as possible about the IBEX, Bolsa, Forex (you seem interested in forex because of the software you have...a software you currently do not know how to use) and anything else involving Spain's financial markets.

    In the meantime, you can also concentrate on developing a local network with others like yourself and hopefully a few are more advance than you or become more advance than you. Therefore, your time right now and for about a year is best spent on learning and understanding that if you want to trade for a living (you've implied such)...best to first learn the business aspects of trading and to grow a personal (in person) network with your peers there in Spain...the latter down the road will pay dividends as you get closer to a career as a trader regardless if its retail or institutional.

    Simply, don't be lured right now into any kind of trading. This is a seductive profession and most that get involved in trading while having not properly prepared...they stay involved until one day they conclude...it doesn't work. This forum is littered with comments by traders as such...traders not able to look in the mirror to see that they themselves created the problem and continue doing so.

    Last time I'll repeat this message to you but its obvious others will encourage you to get your feet wet now...that's the start of the temptation...seductive aspect of trading for a newbie.
     
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    #35     Sep 13, 2015
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  6. Mikkel

    Mikkel

    I get your point and even though there is people that encourage to directly start to learn by trading itself I think that is more logic what you say.

    Before doing something you have to know it, if you do you will have more chances of success when you do it than if you start doing it directly without the necessary knowledge. If you do it that way you will do a lot of things wrong and acquire bad habits.

    That's what I think so I will take your advice. Thank you very much!
     
    #36     Sep 13, 2015
  7. Hooti

    Hooti


    I support wrbtrader’s posts. There is an example here on elite trader of a university student learning to trade based on what his professor recommended.


    Go to the general "forums" page near the upper left hand corner of this page. Once you are in "forums", then do a search (on the upper right hand side) though the forums for the member "Lajax" and look at his sequential threads on NQ-price action (with a thread for each of the below steps). [edit -- links added below.]

    You will see a process of learning from observing <--> back testing <--> forward testing <--> sim trading <--> live trading. And going back and forth as necessary until your stats carry across. You don't have to follow DB Phoenix (as Lajax did) to use this process. Whoever you follow, working a process like this... because you have to learn your own way to trade regardless, IMO the process is as much or more important than who you follow. Once you have the process, if you run into a problem you just go back and work it through the process; or if you want to add something new to your trading, the process is one way to do it.

    Look at how much time Lajax spent before even considering sim or live trading. And it appears the wrbtrader is recommending even more of a base of understanding before trading.

    I will say that it is easy to overtrade in an effort to reach 100 trades in each step of the process as Lajax did – a natural tendency. The truth is in the saying: “the faster you go the longer it takes”.

    http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/price-action-nq.289300/

    http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/price-action-nq-ii.290256/

    http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/price-action-nq-iii.290851/

    http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/simulated-combine-nq-i.291787/

    http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/simulated-combine-nq-ii.292323/
     
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    #37     Sep 13, 2015
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  8. fxwizard

    fxwizard

    @OP: You need some sort of theory on which to base your trades.

    For beginners, the best theories books would have to be:

    1. How I made $2M in the stock market by Nicolas Darvas
    2. How to make money in stocks by Williams J. O'Neil

    Those will give you the theories. But you also need to know the method. These books will give them to you:

    3. The master swing trader by Alan Farley
    4. Reading price charts bar by bar by Al Brooks

    In short 1+2 cover the "what do I trade", while 3+4 will explain "how do I trade them".
     
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  9. Mikkel

    Mikkel

    Wow Lajax did a great job!
    Behind any good work there's a process so yeah I will have to follow the process.
    Thank you!!
     
    #39     Sep 13, 2015
  10. Mikkel

    Mikkel

    Thanks!!
    I'll search for them. Any other book recommendation?
     
    #40     Sep 13, 2015