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  1. themickey

    themickey

    I watched the video.

    What you Christian guys can't seem to fathom, your pulpits are full of snakeoil salesmen.
    They stand there with their slick suits and jabber the first bit of shit which comes into their heads, while the congregation slurp down their words in total subservience.

    It's mind boggling how cultists can't understand bs when it's constantly slapping them in the face like a wet fish.

    Btw, these flashy clothes these guys wear, its all part of the elaborate con to appear professional, legitimate.

    Anyhow SOM, thanks for the video which portrays a great example of church bs.
     
    #631     Jan 16, 2022
  2. themickey

    themickey

    You know what the problem is with you Christians?
    You are led like lambs to the slaughter by your 'leaders'.

    You have a ministry which is deluded and you have the sheep which are placid, mild, unquestioning, lazy, complicit, subservient.
    You believe everything told you, hostages, blinkers on, deaf, dumb, mute.

    Wake the fuck up for christ sake!
     
    #632     Jan 16, 2022
  3. OK. It's my turn to join in this fight!:D

    Elijah went before the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him.”

    So, rather than using the saying "May the best man win," I'll start off by saying:


    "If the Lord is God, follow Him!"


    I will plan to tackle one issue and stay on it for a while to hammer this out.

    1. (This might be the beginning of several major points, farther down the road)You had a problem with the messenger in the video, but didn't comment on whether or not his message was biblically based. I think that beneath your repeated criticisms of pastors/churches is an even bigger problem: disbelief in God's Word.

    So, for starters:

    I believe that the original manuscripts of the Bible were written by men who were inspired by God, led by God or at times given the message audibly, directly from God. These original works did not contain errors in the message God intended. They did, however, accurately record sins of many people, so the recording of sin in the Bible does not mean that God is endorsing the sin. Also, there are copies that do contain small scribal errors.

    So, how accurate is the Bible compared to what was written in the original manuscripts? All we have now are copies of copies.

    A. The Dead Sea scrolls were a collection of a large number of copies of manuscripts of the Old Testament and other writings that were found together that date back to before Jesus time. Based on clear evidence, the following passage was written by Dr. Rogers.
    [Editors Note: AP auxiliary writer Dr. Rogers is the Director of the Graduate School of Theology and Associate Professor of Bible at Freed-Hardeman University. He holds an M.A. in New Testament from Freed-Hardeman University as well as an M.Phil. and Ph.D. in Hebraic, Judaic, and Cognate Studies from Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion.]

    Let us pause here to make an important observation: these cases we have been discussing are unusual. In fact, there are relatively few examples of passages that are totally different in the Dead Sea Scrolls than they appear in the Medieval Hebrew manuscripts. And the majority of the passages that are different match some other known version of the Old Testament (usually the Greek translation). This means that the Old Testament has been copied and transmitted with remarkable accuracy. It is not a stretch to say the Hebrew Bible known to Jesus is essentially the same as the one known to us. All of this leads to the conclusion that the Dead Sea Scrolls sometimes complicate, but generally confirm, our knowledge of the Old Testament text.
    https://apologeticspress.org/the-dead-sea-scrolls-and-the-bible-5741/
    The article makes the point that the current Old Testament we use today is essentially the same as what Jesus knew.
     
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    #633     Jan 16, 2022
  4. themickey

    themickey

    I stopped reading right there.
    All you sort are capable of is quoting the same stupid nonsense out of the bible as if it were God speaking, which it isn't.
    There's a zillion Christians all spouting their own interpretation on the bible, all pulling in different directions, all got there own cliques and you want the heathen to listen to your version?

    Think about it; if I were constantly attempting at backing up my theories quoting scripture out of the Quran, do you think you would be listening?
     
    #634     Jan 16, 2022
  5. ph1l

    ph1l

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&version=MEV
    In 18, "will" is used as a verb which means the future. "helper" means something to help.
    In 19, God creates the help mentioned in 18 -- animals.
    So, 18 happened before 19.



    https://biblehub.com/commentaries/matthew/16-28.htm
    So the commentary from another Bible scholar says the verse refers to the second coming -- which hasn't happened yet.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16&version=MEV
    So that means some of the people Jesus spoke to are still alive according to some Bible scholars.

    These examples show the Bible has multiple interpretations. It seems anyone can interpret the Bible to suit their views. To me, that makes it a not-so-reliable historical document.
     
    #635     Jan 16, 2022
  6. themickey

    themickey

    Yabba yabba yabba, jabber jabber jabber.
     
    #636     Jan 16, 2022
  7. No. You are trying to force your opinion into the text. The statement in verse 19, "Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky" does not have a time stamp included. We know from the chapter 1 passage that it is referring to the previous days of creation when God had formed every beast and every bird. The Chapter 1 sequence of events would have been assumed in the retelling of of the events in Chapter 2.

    Putting the same sentence structures into a modern situation might make it more clear.

    On Tuesday Bill went to the store and bought lettuce. On Wednesday he went to the store and bought lunchmeat. On Thursday he went to the store and bought mayonnaise.

    On Saturday, Bill had a friend over for lunch. Bill had bought lettuce, lunchmeat and mayonnaise from the store but he had forgotten to get bread. Bill told his friend they should get lunch at Chic-Fil-A instead of eating at home.

    The second paragraph in the story is complete and truthful, but it does not give the details that it was on the days of the previous week that he had made the purchases.
     
    #637     Jan 16, 2022
  8. themickey

    themickey

    Christians can't fathom it out they have been sold a huge crock of shit.

    Old folk believing in their folk lore, passing on down all these old wives tales to their offspring.
    Generation after generation of nonsense passed off as wisdom.
    Claiming they set you free and claiming they are liberating the blind.

    If you don't question your religion and all the stupid sop your brain is addled with, you're incapable of thinking.
     
    #638     Jan 16, 2022
  9. ph1l

    ph1l

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/god-is.359932/page-63#post-5523798
    At 00:51, the video has
    That says God does what he feels like, and anyone who questions that has a problem. So, only ~5 billion people are destined to spend eternity in Hell after death through no fault of their own.

    I guess God could do something to tell all humans his word, so they would voluntarily worship him, but he must have better things to do.:confused:
     
    #639     Jan 16, 2022
  10. :D

    Yeah, it's very important to interpret the Bible correctly!
     
    #640     Jan 16, 2022
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