In the article: “We’re now more than in excess of the numbers we had seen in the peak back in April,” Migoya said. At the height of the pandemic in April, a hospital spokesman said, Jackson Health had 167 patients with COVID-19, though fewer patients were being tested for the disease at the time because tests were scarce and the criteria was restricted to high-risk groups. ---------- ---------- For anyone following the train wreck in FL, there is a shortage of tests available to anyone who wants one. This confirms what was seen in my prior post. Also, The only part of the state that has reported hospitalizations is now saying things are getting worse. For those who want a state by state look at positivity rates: John Hopkins
Your article states that people being admitted to hospitals were being reported in full during the pandemic, the only thing missing was whether they were being admitted to the hospital because of Covid. This is an important distinction but doesn't change the fact that Florida is not facing a bed shortage, nor is it anticipated to at this time. This doesn't rule out locally tight capacity, of course. A hospital with 8 beds, might just see a shortage. Also, nowhere in your article or tweets did it say anything about a shortage of tests. It did mention the shortage back in the start of the pandemic back in April. Please clarify where you have seen this data that says right now there is a shortage of tests to anyone who wants one.
Preface this is not a scientific study, I'm not a medical expert, it's an opinion like yours based some what on actual data. You are imo totally missing the point on death counts. Deaths are down substantially across the board in many locations most likely because of medical advances/awareness in treatment, better containment in retirement homes, many people taking safety precautions on getting infected, and the average age of those getting sick. Take your pick. However, the drop in deaths has been mediocre to non-existent recently in the southern US states having this spike in cases. In one recent 3 day period, I looked at the death rate in the US compared to Canada. 1200 extra people died in the US in that period over and above what one would expect using Canada's numbers as a guide. The numbers don't lie. There is no rational way to explain this number by anything but more infections DID result in many more deaths short term. It matters not what the absolute death rates or and where these endless political debates go in the US. However, it is extremely misleading for you to suggest people aren't dying because of this spike in infections in several states including Florida. Might be time to stop doing that. Trying to minimilize the impact of the virus serves no purpose. We are all for opening up in a gradual, smart way. What isn't happening as it should is having everyone on board on accepted safety precautions ( with near total approval of the medical community ). Endless debate and political talk goes nowhere, it encourages some to act recklessly and increases the chances an area gets what they don't want, more lock downs or restrictions. Some may be necessary, but crowded beaches or bars were never part of a rational opening strategy.
Continually doubting the news and data until such point as the situation gets out of hand serves no purpose except the increase the chances of a bad outcome. The natural delay between cause and effect ( and the potential for exponential moves ) is why you simply must err on the side of caution with the virus.
Tsing, go find a volunteer job or something, your obsession with posting all day is borderline psychotic. Stop! Regroup!
Ok little boy, take my hand and sit down over here at your cookies and milk corner. The fack, is it Florida or the whole USA? Clueless DeSantis presides over what area of the country? And what area, and only area, of the country have we discussing? Let's start with how does your chart look two days later - especially with today's number (yesterdays released today) being 58? That's kinda, nope not kinda, but is higher than 26 of the last 27 days. In my previous post I said: "Here is all the 7 day MA on all the death data since Chumpie said "We have it very much under control in this country," and our Gubnor said, yup what he said. Actually to be far to Chumpie he said the idiotic statement above 19 days ... before the first death." So ummm since Chumpie said blah blah blah blah which was 19 days before the first death, come on you can work it out, right? Ok I'll spell it out for you - 7 MA since day one of the deaths happening.
Dallas hit a new high for deaths yesterday, hopefully this is just an anomaly, but I fear it may not be.
It is possible, but it is also more likely it could be contributed to a delay factor to the case rise. The doomers could be right, and it deaths could be coming around the corner. Let us hope this is not the case.
First, thank you for prefacing your commentary appropriately and cordially. I appreciate that and will always respond in kind. It isn't that people "aren't dying". One need only look at the statistics and see that there are actual people dying, as they have been dying during this crisis - and before - from all sorts of causes. The conversation that I have always been about is going back and forth between what the virus does to people in terms of mortality (the overall risk to a person which varies, of course, based on numerous factors of health, age, etc) vs. the other side of the equation which no one wants to consider, and that is the economic output. Now, before you start throwing the very emotional response of "Economics?? This is about people's LIVES!" at me, think about it for a second. I mean, honestly think about it. If I asked you "Is it worth shutting the economy down and losing billions, people unemployed, suicides up, drug usage from anxiety, etc" all the stuff that shutting down causes to save just ONE person's life, what would you say? I know more than one person died, but lets stick to the example. Is it worth doing all that for one life? If you say it IS worth it to save one person's life (which I cannot fathom you would) then I would ask why you aren't willing to bankrupt the world's economy to save millions from cancer. Or from diabetes. Or something else. If such a value of life is placed that saving one person means everyone else gets screwed economically, then we should be all the more willing to go nuts to cure something that affects much greater amounts of people, no? Now, if you respond as most people would, that one person's life is NOT worth shutting the country down to save them, then it is a question of a sliding scale - of subjectivity, is it not? Meaning we have to figure out how many people it IS worth to shut the country down. Is it 10? 1000? 100,000? Somewhere in there I think you'd find anyone who would agree with you, because as death reaches a certain level, any price becomes willing to be paid. This is the overall problem I wrestle with here, and why I refer constantly to the death rate. We have a choice to make - we can either accept that we are not going to have a vaccine any time soon and we have to figure out how to get on with our lives and accept certain truths, or we can decide to shut the world down, become wholly dependent on some sort of communism or socialist collective where the government provides everything. I think you'll find that this becomes a hard pill to swallow for many of us. You may (or may not) accept that alternative. I certainly do not. Thanks again for being cordial.