Considering Trading Treasury Bonds Futures

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by orderbookacolyte, Nov 24, 2019.

  1. varaamo

    varaamo

    There is a great thread here in ET that explains some of the Order book/DOM techniques.
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/can-it-be-done.228757/
     
    #21     Nov 25, 2019
  2. dozu888

    dozu888

    Keep it simple. Straight QQQ. forget gold. It’s a dumb money comfort trade. Currently.
     
    #22     Nov 25, 2019
  3. bbpp

    bbpp

    If you replace my portfolio with simple QQQ, then it achieved profit of about 150% for past 20 years, only 1/30 of the profit of my portfolio.
     
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    #23     Nov 25, 2019
  4. imjohn

    imjohn

    But... but... he just stated "Proven nobody can beat the qqq." :rolleyes:
     
    #24     Nov 25, 2019
  5. dozu888

    dozu888

    notice when people making these claims they all use %, not real $... and yesterday when I asked Fidelity has 168,000 401k millionaires how many day traders have made $1m.... so far 1 guy raised hand (without supporting evidence... but who cares lol)

    I know people who can pull $300-1000 out of the market on daily basis... problem is usually the mindset is so locked down on that kind of scale they can't go any further.. in this case I can give the benefit of the doubt that he did make 30 times the QQQ... the next question is why is he wasting time here.... should have been running a $100m fund already with that kind of track record... or maybe he already is, that's good for him...

    of course there are people like PTJ.. but at 12.5% annual, virtually (figurative speech) no fund managers can beat the qqq over the long term.
     
    #25     Nov 25, 2019
  6. Since this original post, have you backtested anything and come up with timeframe you like?
     
    #26     Dec 18, 2019
  7. easymon1

    easymon1

    1) the source (don't tell me) of the $3m, if you did it, then trading may be for you. if you bumped into it, you may want so seek counseling before putting it at risk. that's a respectable chunk o change considering that to duplicate it from ground level would require overcoming friction of existance costs (the nut, food clothing wine women song housing, family, etc etc etc), taxes, time (irreplacable), you'd need to scrape up $6m or more to end up with a pile of $3m, no?

    you're 30.
    ?be the best at the skill and career you are trained in, hell, somebody's gotta do it. if possible refine your time usage so that you either up your legal income or up your spare time, your choice. if you go with more disposable time, be diligently expert at your j.o.b. and with your newfound time take a measured methodical approach to trading or maybe even investing.

    bleed off some of your income into the trading realm and after five or ten years, if your trading income outstrips your j.o.b. income, ...

    i know nothing about your situation so just though i'd throw some at the wall, maybe something you can use in there. cheers
     
    #27     Feb 21, 2020
  8. traderjo

    traderjo

    Is it possible to search by strategy?
     
    #28     Feb 26, 2020
  9. the 5 year and 10 years treasury bills is most liquid and active at the exchange that with ES and the NQ

    that is where exchange and brokers get all their fees from.

    trading is kind of unsatisfying and like a machine , in fact, lots of market making at major banks and brokers been automated. there is no human interaction like in open outcry and you have no clue who is buying or selling...very cold and boring market actually, it's just all machines , i don't see how that many shares can trade like that


     
    #29     Mar 4, 2020
  10. What you don't want to be in the 'law' sector anymore?

    you've spent 8 years of law school to trade? the only thing trading or financial sector is securities law etc.

    as legal, I don't get how that much financial crime in the streets and SEC says it's a 'regulated' market. and as 'regulated market' it the most unregulated market.

    finance is boring..trading is gambling and its' just trading and market making there is no need for market makers in trading bonds. the bond market is liquid.



     
    #30     Mar 4, 2020