That's right. This is the law we are signatory to. But you don't just walk across the border. You surrender yourself to a border official, and you should be given a court date within 72 hours. Ultimately, after a court hearing the Court would decide whether you have a legitimate claim for asylum. Under Obama Admin. Policy, after a preliminary screening, you would be given an ankle bracelet and released under certain rules you were to follow until your court date. If you violated those rules you would then be in violation of the law, and subject to arrest. As you probably know, a very high percentage show for their appointed court date. We are a nation of laws. Both the government and individuals must obey the law or suffer the consequence. You can continue to remain in the dark, or you can inform yourself. The choice is yours. No one can make it for you. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino...migrants-worse-under-trump-advocates-n1025961 There are many places to go now for both accurate and intentionally inaccurate information now that we have the internet. It is up to you to learn how to sift through the sea of information and disinformation available. It is disheartening to realize that many people are poorly informed by choice. What I mean by that is that they read and listen to only material that agrees with their biases. I find it difficult to believe, but I know from ET posts that there are people who believe what Donald Trump tells them. This is putting our Republic in grave danger.
And the fake news continues. Thankfully, we have a record from which people can read. Fact, infant mortality is up under this administration in immigrant detention facilities. Fact, Trump's hand picked AG instituted a zero tolerance approach to family crossings separating minors from their families. Fact, the narrative that under Obama, this was policy, is a GOP talking point, as Obama dealt with unaccompanied minors, not instituted family separation for non felons.
The surrender doesn't even have to be at a legal point of entry either is my understanding. This has been exacerbated as this admin has shut down requests by slowing processing to a crawl.
God Daaaaaamn, oh oh they brought in, Jesus. Church unveils nativity scene depicting holy family as caged refugees https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nativi...t-church-shows-holy-family-as-caged-refugees/
Fact, Here4money makes up whatever data he wants, calls them "facts" and then when asked to back them up, replies with comments like "its everywhere" and "go look it up". Fact, when presented evidence to the contrary of whatever narrative Here4money is pushing at the moment (there are so many), he immediately pivots and changes the narrative, attempting to blend into the background of obfuscation.
Facts, the data has been posted multiple times. Facts, no data supporting Tsing's argument (that deaths of minors were the same under previous admins) was provided. Tsing's back pedal is evident to the reader who can read tsing's previous postings (minor deaths morphing into adult deaths).
You obviously missed this entire post (or didn't read it) so you could continue your horseshit narrative. But hey, tell us once more how the facts are "all over the place" but you don't link to them. https://www.cato.org/blog/annual-death-rate-immigration-detention-rose-2017-fell-2018 CATO AT LIBERTY Since the Trump Administration announced a punitive immigration detention policy in 2018 that separated families, reportshavesurfacedofimmigrantswhohavediedwhileindetention or shortly after being released to medical facilities for treatment. It’s understandable why news consumers and suppliers are interested in deaths in detention facilities given the Trump Administration’s actions on this issue, but the distinct impression from reading all of these stories is that being detained is more dangerous than ever. To check whether this was true or if this impression was just an artifact of cognitivebias, I decided to estimate the annual death rate in immigration detention in the United States. There are two primary pieces of data required to calculate this rate: The number of people in detention each year and the number of deaths. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) runs all of the detention facilities and they provide the number ofdeaths and admissions. The American Immigration Law Association provides some more recent numbers of deaths in detention, but I only include those that ICE also counts. The admissions into ICE detention facilities variable is the proper one to use as it is closer to the number of unique individuals who were present in a detention facility in each year. The numbers for both variables run through the end of Fiscal Year (FY) 2018. The FY2018 death rate in ICE immigration detention was 2.3 per 100,000 detainees, a 39 percent drop relative to the rate for FY2017. That’s good news, but the improvement in FY2018 follows on a deterioration in FY2017 from FY2016. In FY2017, the death rate per 100,000 detainees increased by 31 percent relative to FY2016. In other words, the chance of dying in detention rose in FY2017 – but the death rate began to rise in FY2015 from a low point of 1.4 per 100,000 in FY2014 in an uninterrupted trend. The largest percentage increases during this time was a 60 percent jump from FY2014 to FY2015. The Trump Administration inherited an ICE detention system where the death rate was rising, presided over a year when the death rate continued to rise, and then saw it fall by 32 percent in FY2018. Figure 1 shows the total number of ICE detentions and the total number of deaths in custody. The absolute number and rates of death in ICE detention were highest during the George W. Bush administration at 6.4 per 100,000 per year. Those death rates fell rapidly from 2004, the first full year when ICE was in operation, from 11.9 per 100,000 detainees to 2.9 per 100,000 detainees in 2008. The death rate rose 26 percent during the first year of the Obama Administration in 2009, then started falling again the next year with an average annual death rate of 2.3 per 100,000 detainees during his entire presidency. We only have data for two years of the Trump administration where the annual death rate is 2.9 percent – almost identical to that of the first two years of the Obama Administration. The rest you can read at the link, but you won't because it doesn't promote The Narrative.
and a simple thread search: https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...ncentration-camps.322136/page-60#post-4897833 https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...ncentration-camps.322136/page-43#post-4865640
The first link you provide details the same story you mentioned in your original link that got this conversation going between us - a 16 year old kid died of the flu while in detention for illegally crossing the border. The link does briefly mention other cases where kids have died, of bacterial infections they had when they came across the border according to the article. That isn't surprising at all. The second link you provide contains a link to a time article that no longer exists. Of the one working link you provided, no where does it state why Trump should be blamed for anything - and no where does it back up the "no children died" under Obama or other Presidents, and no where does it back up the statistics (number of deaths etc) you quoted. My article from Cato shows where deaths have occurred in detention under other Presidents. So once again, unless you can provide a specific source other than "its everywhere", I can't accept your statistics and have to judge you pushing a narrative. As usual.