A message to some day traders.

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Amahrix, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. Peter10

    Peter10

    Or you have a very fast computer...I mean HFT not point and click trading...
     
    #161     Sep 20, 2019
  2. Amahrix

    Amahrix

    Stop falling for this stuff Peter. Those HFT are not profiting from interpreting past data to future predicted movements like day traders. Portion of profits come from latency arb.
     
    #162     Sep 20, 2019
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    Yes, we know the news is random in nature, in that we do not know when things like this happen. But the market direction following the event is not random at all. It follows the sentiment.

    See May 5th and August 1st for reference?
     
    #163     Sep 20, 2019
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  4. imjohn

    imjohn

    10,000,000?

    IF the single signal occurred 1,000 times per year in my timeframes, that would be 10,000 years. The ES contract doesn't go back that far. Are any other actual traders here looking at simulations for 10,000,000 occurrences before you decide whether your potential signal is valid?

    My knowledge of statistics is definitely rudimentary, so I'll proceed as an observer on this thread.
     
    #164     Sep 20, 2019
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  5. Amahrix

    Amahrix

    You can run a monte carlo simulation based on the probabilities you've experienced when tinkering with your strategy, or "back-testing" and run those probabilities many million times on your computer.
     
    #165     Sep 20, 2019
  6. Amahrix

    Amahrix

    It's more random than you think. a lot more. guy, we're talking daily charts here.... DAILY.
     
    #166     Sep 20, 2019
  7. Peter10

    Peter10

    Maybe you don't know... HFT firms make a lot of money trading the news...They submit their orders milliseconds after the news has been released... Though the competition is fierce, the fastest wins... Speed is their edge...
     
    #167     Sep 20, 2019
  8. bone

    bone

    Nassim Taleb would tell you that Monte Carlo simulations UNDERSTATE TAIL RISK.
     
    #168     Sep 20, 2019
  9. themickey

    themickey

    This guy has been on ET before a few times, different nics, I wasn't going to bother checking but anyhow I did.
    This is fibo_trader..... funny guy....
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/bear-market-almost-ready-to-resume.330744/
     
    #169     Sep 20, 2019
  10. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    Near impossible for retail traders...as far as I know. As for your claim, making 7% monthly for years using just TA, that flies in the face of two realities:

    1) Pretty much every TA chart, indicator, system has been tested or tried. The vast majority never worked with any consistency. Those that have worked at some point tend to have very short shelf lives...the market is just too efficient and algo-dominated...plus the big boys would data mine and arb away any profits available from simple TA approaches

    2) If you compounded even 3-4% monthly (assuming some is used for living expenses, taxes, etc) you'd amass a fortune fast. But to this day there's never been a single retail trader on any Fortune 500 type list. There should be dozens from ET alone from all the threads and claims I've seen over the years.
     
    #170     Sep 20, 2019