Wael: >One last favor I need from you if you have any >sense of decency. Do not reply to this post or to >any of my future posts. This is a request I wish >you respect. And I wish you all (both sides) had the decency to post your BS somewhere else, but you don't, so here goes... >I tried to be respectful but obviously >you do not deserve it!!! If you were interested in truth and therefore peace, I would respect you. Since you're not, I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me. >You want to talk about bickering??? you have fought and >insulted and countered the arguments of people who >opposed your version of the 911 events for months. You >will still be nasty about it if someone opened the subject again. Last time I checked, bickering on ET doesn't get people killed -- the form of bickering engaged in in the middle east has killed countless on BOTH sides. If you don't see the different result, I can't help you. >I am under occupation, my people are being >ethnically cleansed and my land is being stolen. I agree, but the way to peace is through honesty and integrity. Posting BS doesn't further your cause one bit. >You on your high tower do not see that because >whatever little information you receive is from >your local media. Just two more examples of desire to ignorantly spew rather than learn... Ignorant point A: I agree with your 'occupation' statement, so I must be able to "see". Ignorant point B: You know nothing about me regarding where I get my information. When you pretend you do, it just, well, makes an ignorant point. >Why??? Because they are from the same >school of thought as the one you came from. ... LOL -- another ignorant spew ... you have no idea where I came from. >...the same school that went after the natives even >after you locked them in reserves. the same school >that slit the throat of thousands of Astics after you >converted them to christianity. This is getting funnier (or more sad depending on pov) all the time. As far as I can tell, I'm one of the few Americans who is ashamed of how the forefathers stole the lands from the natives. One of the few who hates the way they were locked away. One of the few who clearly (as an strong agnostic) is against a religious "conversion" of any sort. I've been a strong proponent (with voice and vote) of Indian casinos and any other program to help return natives to self-sufficiency. After all, I own a home on an indian reservation and see their sad state daily (you ignorant moron). I denounce *publicly* the historic treatment in this country of blacks, chinese, natives, etc. I regularly state that this country was not founded on "Christian principles" as most like to spew, but rather on the principle - "let's steal from and exploit the weak". SHAME ON US!! How do you like them apples? >If we sit in our homes, if we raise white flags on top >of our shacks, if we beg our zionist masters not to >ethnically cleans us, not to demolish our homes on >top of us and allow us to live in our sealed off refugee >camps...they will still do with killing and destroying us. Yeah, I get it -- you guys don't/can't trust each other ... and it is with good reason. You've lied to and killed each other for so long you feel like you have the RIGHT to lie to and kill each other. It's so freakin' sad it makes my heart ache for the victims. But better men than I have tried and failed to bring both camps into the world of honesty, and frankly, outside of that world there is no hope for either of you. >Our survival depands on two concepts; >Struggle and Steadfastness! So, how has the same stupid shit you both have been pulling for the last bazillion years been working out for you? Good luck being "steadfast" with more of the same stupid shit. >I know I know...You wish I will shut up, go away and die >quietly so that I will not force open your old wound that >will ooze with your inner ugliness Nope, I wish you and dddooo would sift through data with an objective mind rather than through the "steadfast" glasses of generations of emotional ignorance and stupidity. JB
Wael: >I am under occupation, dddooo: >LOL man, you are in freaking Canada (when you are >not a Latino livinging in New Mexico of course). You >were not born in Israel, you never lived in Israel, yet >you consider yourself a refugee. Get real. To me, it doesn't matter if he's there or not. To me, it matters not if he's a native. To me it matters not if he's Swedish and has adopted them as 'his people'. The plight of that region is what it is and his role is unimportant. I just wish that both sides cared enough to be honest. Neither side is. Wael: >my people are being ethnically cleansed dddooo: >Population in the Palestinian Territory increased by >39% during the period 1997-2006, reached 3.9 million >in mid year 2006. Gaza Strip population increased by >45% during the period 1997-2006, reached about 1.4 >million in mid year 2006 A perfect example of how neither side is looking for nor accepting the truth. Your response dddooo is designed to refute his original claim, yet in truth, it doesn't refute it all all -- a regions population can rise substantially while "ethnic cleansing" continues. Neither side wants to give an inch. Both sides want the other side gone. Both claim the moral high ground. The Israelis claim that the other sides wants them wiped off the face of the earth (and they have good reason to believe that). The opposition says that Israel wants to oppress, steal, and cleanse them (and they have good reason to believe that). Same stupid stuff, same stupid results. There's no mystery. JB
Zionist mercy (the topic of this thread) Israeli doctors screen Iraqi heart patients, defying tensions ... The Iraqi children and their parents gathered at an outpatient clinic in the Red Crescent Hospital in the Jordanian capital, Amman. ... One child who was screened Tuesday was 4-year-old Mustafa, who Houri said was diagnosed with a dangerous case of crossed arteries and would need two surgeries in Israel soon to unfold them before they harden. Mustafa's mother, a Kurdish woman who identified herself only as Suzanne because she feared retribution, said traveling to Israel made her anxious ... not because I'm going to a country considered an enemy of Iraq, but because I'm afraid of retribution by Iraqi militants, by the terrorists back home. I'm afraid and it's not easy for me at all, but I'm willing to take the risk to save my beloved son's life, she said as she caressed Mustafa. Israel is a good country. It's a country that has mercy on other people, she added. Taxi driver Abu Ahmed, 36, of the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk, said his 12-year-old daughter, Basita, underwent a successful surgery in Israel last year. The Israeli doctors, bless their hearts, stitched a notch in her heart, he said. They told me today that she recovered completely, and I'm grateful to them and their country for helping us out. They (Israelis) are not our enemies, he said. They helped me a lot and didn't make me feel like they were enemies. Many Muslims have a wrong idea about Israelis. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/911161.html
Muslim mercy An Iranian-born German soccer player's refusal to play in Israel has sparked a public outcry in Germany... Ashkan Dejagah, who moved to Germany as a child, pulled out of Friday's game in Tel Aviv â a qualification match for the European Under-21 Championship â citing "political reasons." "I have more Iranian than German blood in my veins. I am doing it out of respect. After all, my parents are Iranian," the 21-year-old midfielder told the Berlin daily tabloid B.Z. It is not the first time an Iranian athlete has refused to compete in Israel, a country whose existence the hard-line Islamic regime in Iran has refused to recognize. In 2004, Bayern Munich played a Champions League game against Maccabi Tel Aviv without a key Iranian player who had been warned by his country not to travel to the Jewish state. The Iranian sports federation had said striker Vahid Hashemian would face consequences at home if he traveled to Israel. Hashemian's official reason for not attending the game was a back injury. During the 2004 Olympics Games in Athens, an Iranian judo champion reportedly said he wouldn't fight an Israeli opponent, then claimed he was too overweight for the bout with Israel's Ehud Vaks. He was disqualified. The International Judo Federation later concluded that he was not overweight. At the 2001 judo world championships, Mahed Malekmohammadi of Iran did not compete against Yoel Razvozov of Israel. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jzAYnQ0MrtZZgivPJqxxdJvVdMUwD8S5NSGO0
Zionist mercy GAZA, Oct. 2 â Israel released 29 Palestinian prisoners and returned them to Gaza on Tuesday, completing what Israeli officials described as a good-will gesture to bolster the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah. Israel freed 57 Palestinian prisoners on Monday, all residents of the West Bank. Most of those released belong to Fatah. Muslim mercy Later on Tuesday evening, three members of the Fatah-affiliated militia Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades were killed when a car they were in exploded in a residential area of Gaza City, according to a spokesman for the group. The blast blew out the windows of surrounding houses, and appeared to have been caused by explosives in the car. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/03/w...37616bd3a1585a&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
War porn does not work wael. Palestinian babies die in the war zone? Too bad these babies were born into families of lousy parents who hate Israel more than they love their children, who glorify death and martyrdom and to whom dead children are just good PR. As I said before invest in bomb shelters, not bomb factories. Better yet don't start wars and intifadas, stop terrorism and rocket attacks and your children will live long happy and prosperous lives in a viable Palestinian state right next to a secure jewish state.
For the record 4 dunams = 1 acre, so we're talking about 250 acres of palestinian land to build a new Palestinian road. They can't build a Palestinian road on Israeli land, can they? Building a Palestinian road on palestinian land seems quite logical to me.
Zionist mercy 09.23.07 The government approved Sunday the absorption of 498 Sudanese refugees who entered Israel through Egypt after fleeing Sudan's troubled Darfur region. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3452414,00.html Muslim mercy 23 July, 2007 Egyptian border guards killed a Sudanese woman and critically injured four others on Sunday in the Sinai Peninsula as they attempted to infiltrate into Israel. The assassination of Haja Abbas Haroun was unprecedented, even though many refugees have been arrested and wounded attempting to enter Israel through Egypt. http://www.jerusalemites.org/News In English/english/2007/July/234.htm
Ignorance is bliss -- demonstrated thread after thread, post after post, video after video, picture after picture, link after link, accusation after accusation. I'm reminded of the (very) old R&H tune... You have got to be taught to hate and fear, Day after day, year after year, It has got to be drummed in your dear little ear, You have got to be carefully taught. You've got to be taught before it's too late, Before you are six or seven or eight, To hate all the people your relatives hate, You have got to be carefully taught!. ... and the much more recent Shawn Mullins piece: Sharing with us what he knows, His shining eyes are big and blue. And all around him water flows, this world to him is new, this world to him is new. To touch a face, to kiss a smile, New eyes see no race, The essence of a child, the essence of a child. He's born to shimmer, born to shine Born to radiate. Born to live, born to love, But we will teach him how to hate. JB