Zinc vs Covid-19

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Wallet, Mar 9, 2020.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    Long term high concentrations are dangerous.
     
    #111     Apr 28, 2020
  2. And, as overdiscussed, even in some of the videos, there is an upper range- below toxicity- where it is simply counter-productive. It becomes an immunosuppressant/sp above a narrow range which works against the goal. It also competes with and suppresses copper absorption which creates other issues. And at higher levels, more nasty stuff than can be covered here.

    Just get in a good place with the zinc dosage and dont do anything stupid and all will be fine.

    Of course, that is difficult for some people.
     
    #112     Apr 28, 2020
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    You only supposed to go heavy on Zinc when you get symptoms. Only for 5 days or so. You won't get Zinc toxicity in such a short time.

    So if your choice is possible death or a little Zinc overload...

    The doctors gave 220mg Sulfate. That is only 50 mg elemental Zinc, not even that high. I think 40 mg is the daily advised upper limit but we are talking here only for 5 days or so. Not a big deal really.

    Now if you are overloading yourself with 30+ mg elemental for weeks when you don't need it, that is a different question. Right now I only take 7 mg elemental, just to make sure I am not deficient when I get the virus. Whatever my body needs goes straight to the toilette.
     
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    #113     Apr 28, 2020
  4. Should we cut off out finger as soon as one gets an infection? I'm surprised you asked that considering you support the scorched earth lockdown policies being shoved down out throats. Actually, using those standards we should hack off the entire arm and the other arm as well just for good measure.
     
    #114     Apr 29, 2020
  5. easymon1

    easymon1

    Perhaps the three most important nutrients for boosting the immune system are zinc, Vitamin C, and Vitamin A, Fuchs cited. The immune system is an amazing apparatus, he continued, as it makes antibodies which are like "heat-seeking missiles" that target specific viruses and germs that have entered the body. In general, people eat way too many calories, he pointed out, and the practice of caloric-restriction is one of the only known ways to increase lifespan.
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2020-04-29-show/
    In the first half, registered pharmacist, nutritionist, and cosmetic chemist, Ben Fuchs shared alternative health concepts, and offered tips on supplements and healthy changes to one's diet and lifestyle. We have created a situation where an infection like the coronavirus has run amok, he commented, because our immune systems are weakened by a toxic environment, the western medical model, and unhealthy food and life choices. Yet, protection doesn't come from staying inside and wearing masks outside, he said. We can build up our immunity by getting on a good nutritional supplement program, he suggested, along with a good diet, deep breathing, exercise, and maintaining mental and emotional health. "These are all things that we have under our control," he added.
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    #115     Apr 30, 2020
  6. Pekelo

    Pekelo



    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.02.20080036v1

    Summary:

    This is a study from NYU - on using HCQ as zinc ionophore - results were that it did not help ICU patients (which has also been reported by other recent studies of end-stage patients) i.e. it did not help end-stage patients in ICU.

    However, it DID help early stage patients - for them the zinc + zinc-ionophone (HCQ) treatment helped reduce death rate i.e. helped prevent them becoming more severe.

    The article also indicates that zinc alone is not likely to be successful - to get the zinc levels up to required levels you need a zinc ionophore, like HCQ (or another perhaps like Quercetin - though they don't mention Quercetin in the paper).

    This is in keeping with the general understanding of HCQ + zinc action - that it needs to be presented soon after first symptoms, and well before the cytokine storm (which typically happens 7-10 days after first symptoms).
     
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    #116     May 11, 2020
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  7. Wallet

    Wallet

     
    #117     May 16, 2020
  8. Wallet

    Wallet

    The Medcram team with Dr. Seheut post a discussion on the positive benefits of HCQ in combo with Zinc, “posting links to the studies” ..... Youtube nazi’s pull the video.

    I guess the other 73 videos they’ve put up are bogus too?
     
    #118     May 22, 2020
  9. Not good.

    They are letting political forces control their content.

    They are the same clowns who complain loudly about being banned in China, all while doing their part to make it more China-esque here. Ditto for Fakebook.
     
    #119     May 22, 2020
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  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    They are reporting on a huge retrospective study on TV about HCQ. ( 6 continents, 700 hospitals) Problems, they used different dosages, at different stages with either alone or with Zpak. (no mention of Zinc) In short, the study is useless and it is only good for scaring patients.

    I can't believe the MSM doesn't get the Zinc connection. At any study mention people already bring up Zinc, so the common people are more informed than our news agencies... Unless they are doing it by purpose, but I think it is just stupidity.

    In the maintime, in several countries doctors use the combo for prevention.
     
    #120     May 22, 2020