Zimmerman Verdict: Guilt or Not Guilty? Vote now!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by peilthetraveler, Jul 12, 2013.

Will the Jury find Zimmerman Guilty or Not Guilty

  1. Guilty

    7 vote(s)
    21.9%
  2. Not Guilty

    25 vote(s)
    78.1%
  1. JamesL

    JamesL

    The worse thing (imo) is that in a few days they ask the judge for clarrification of the jury instructions...they at that point would be trying to thread a the proverbial needle.
     
    #21     Jul 12, 2013
  2. BSAM

    BSAM

    Not guilty.
     
    #22     Jul 12, 2013
  3. Maybe but he's also "not innocent".
     
    #23     Jul 12, 2013
  4. pspr

    pspr

    He is innocent of the charges.

    Murder 2 - Innocent.

    Manslaughter - Innocent.
     
    #24     Jul 12, 2013
  5. JamesL

    JamesL

    Since there seems to be an interest in this case on the federal level ("my son") I would expect some type of federal hate crime charges leveled if the jury chooses not to convict. It seems that based on testimony presented in the trial, they were just laying the foundation for this being a racial incident (how many times have we heard during this trial that Zimmerman was profiling Martin) which I think qualifies under Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009.
     
    #25     Jul 12, 2013
  6. BSAM

    BSAM

    Who voted guilty?
    Show your face.
     
    #26     Jul 12, 2013
  7. BSAM

    BSAM

    Will Obama reverse the decision by "executive order" if Zimmerman is found innocent?
     
    #27     Jul 12, 2013
  8. The (remaining) freedoms that we have in the United States are based on the presumption of innocence, not on the presumption of guilt. When I walk (or jog, or skip) in any neighborhood, I don't owe any explanation to any "good citizens" as to what I am doing here, or why I am dressed in a certain way. If the "good citizens" start following me, I'd perceive it as a threat and say, "Fuck off, you creeps".

    The burden of proof is on the police to have a reasonable suspicion that I am up to some illegal activity, in order for them to stop and question me. And yes, okay, the neighborhoods have the right to form whatever "militia" that the'd like, but again, I don't owe them any explanation unless there is a clear intent on my part to break the law. There wasn't anything like that in the case under the discussion.

    Imagine a country (or a neighborhood) where this concept of presumption of innocence is substituted with the presumption of guilt. Would that make any neighborhoods safer? Hell, no. You'd be afraid to go anywhere, because any psycho with a gun would be entitled to follow you, stop you, question you, and kill you, if you show any signs of human dignity.
     
    #28     Jul 12, 2013
  9. BSAM

    BSAM

    Which will be the bigger story if Zimmerman is found innocent:

    A. The trial

    B. The riots
     
    #29     Jul 12, 2013
  10. BSAM

    BSAM

    If you carry a gun, you should also carry a small voice recorder.
    Both can save your ass.
     
    #30     Jul 12, 2013