Let's try that again. Reading your post a second time, I realize just how much you say about your own life once the wrapping and ribbons are removed. You may wish to address your apparent despair more directly. Further, let us not make the silly mistake of confusing circular arguments with profundity.
First you assume zen equates with mysticism. When this view is challenged, you assume your challengers equate zen with science. Perhaps you have not tasted zen's true flavor at all -- hence your weak approximations and oddly insecure boasting.
Heh heh... If you were a little more mystically minded perhaps you wouldn't be getting so upset over a strangers remarks that in the end cannot possible mean diddly squat to you How can you be so cranky today? the market is giving money away
Now you assume I am upset. You sure do a lot of assuming. You make a nice foil -- a living contrast between what is good and what is mumbo jumbo. What zen is and what it is not. In that role, you have done a nice thing for the readers of this thread. (And provided entertainment to boot.) In gratitude for your contribution, here's a tip. It is good to learn from wise men and fools alike... so long as one does not confuse the two.
Not only does he not grasp the simplest aspects of reality, or of practice, he is very very sick. Trader28 couldn't resist sending me one more unwelcome PM: I've never seen a sadder loser. Take your meds T28 and stop bothering your betters.
I guess I need to keep letting people know what sort of Troll we are dealing with in T28. Same old boring flame tactics. And sadly he never put up an argument to counter, just a little new age anti-science babble. He is one weird guy. Not worth debating because he isn't rational. For anyone who might be interested in understanding Trader28 a few quotes might help. "Jesus was a kabbalist, like every other jewish rabbi/essene of the time, he'd be horrified by christianity" "The deification of Jesus (by a mad roman emperor) has taken divinity out of man, it is the greatest crime of organised religion to feed the lie that we are not divine, that god is something seperate, that we must feel guilty... it's a tragedy" "The fact that you are attacking me reveals your insecurity and that you dont really understand probability... as for the pipe reference... it is so old and hokey I actually feel embarrassed for you" ... funny how t28 always feels he's being attacked? "And once and for all if you allow emotions into the equation as you said you do then you are nothing but an amatuer, meditation and trading are acts of discipline, if you cant control your emotions then you are a perennial loser... but I guess someone needs to be on the other side of my contracts" "I know everything about you, I knew the minute you told me you couldn't control your emotions while trading, and then set about proving it in this thread" "You called down the thunder so it is a little late to piss and moan about the rain, trading is also about taking responsibility for ourselves and our actions, but if you must play the victim then also admit it about your trading so we can feel extra sorry for you" "Thats a very eastern centric view of meditation, a western occultist would disagree with most of that even though the basic goal and path is the same, for instance morals are an illusion from a higher perspective. Much of the eastern tradition has come to the west polluted with exoteric rubbish and is certainly not what the true adepts would be practicing. The entire concept of transcendence smacks of escapism when it is obvious we incarnate for a definite physical purpose" "There is exoteric Buddhism and then there are the Buddhist adepts of the inner school... milk for babes and strong meat for men" "Quantum physics is in it's infancy and barely understood by it's own experts, esoteric lore is millenia ahead of science, for instance the knowledge that the universe is an expression of the absolute's own awareness is thousands of years old, but only in the past few decades have scientists been heard to claim that the universe begins to look like a giant thought" "Science does a good enough job of misrepresenting itself without any help from us, the minute they can all actually come to a consensus on a theory it is superseded by another... dont look to science for ultimate truth... you'll just get another temporary theory" "And of course it is in it's infancy, have they explained the nature of reality? do they even know what electricity or gravity is yet? todays theory is tomorrows flat earth!" "I guess you missed the 122 page thread I started entitled simple profitable method that everyone keeps congratulating me on winners win... losers like to deflect from the reason they lost, like you did above" .... grandiose delusion? "come back again anytime you want your arse handed to you again... and ps... those sheep are for wool... not for lovin " and a few old gold quotes: "They warned me over at trade2win not to come over here, nothing but bad jokes and bad traders... should have listened" "I have never seen so many morons that couldn't answer a simple question... the bad jokes are obviously a defence to cover up the fact that you troglodytes simply dont have a clue" No more abusive PMs please T28. I guess my desire to leave you to your obsessive insanity isn't being respected so I'll keep coming back and letting everyone know why you were banned from Trade2Win --- maybe the moderators here will get sick of you too.
Good point. I doubt that doing sufficient meditation to really develop oneself is compatible with the pursuit of extreme wealth. I think that it reduces the motivation as well as the time available. Regular short meditation for focus and calm shouldn't be a hindrance and would help many. Edit: I've just caught up with the thread. To any who read this post, there were some good responses to Cutten's post in the last couple of pages amongst a certain obsessive's rantings.
Yeah gee I dont know who those obsessive rants would be coming from... someone so desperate they take half a page to repeat the same thing over and over again?
Trader28 continues to send unwelcome pms. Moderators, please control him or ban him ... show the good sense that Trade2Win showed. "heh heh... well that backfired on you didn't it.... mess with the bull... ya get the horn sheepboy" I am highly offended by the racist animal jokes ... if you ban someone for sexism ... surely racism is equally important. This is an anti-New Zealander racist attack.