Zen Fire Disaster

Discussion in 'Order Execution' started by Cazza La Randa, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. AMP_Futures

    AMP_Futures ET Sponsor

    #131     Feb 22, 2011
  2. AMP_Futures

    AMP_Futures ET Sponsor

    Only 4?

    CQG is expanding the demo environment...email trading@ampclearing.com your instrument request

    Remember, live account only $500 to get started and includes full market access
     
    #132     Feb 22, 2011
  3. This is excessively low margin/excessive leverage...very detrimental to BOTH trader and FCM....AND also to clients of FCM that are less levered.
     
    #133     Feb 22, 2011
  4. I can confirm that is true

    Only four symbols are available real time at this time
     
    #134     Feb 22, 2011
  5. RobertG

    RobertG

    Thank you EMG and Trader123.
    Amazing how fast some brokers has buried these few good words
    Lets go for another round boys
     
    #135     Mar 9, 2011
  6. No its not. That is more than enough to make money if you have an edge. Also, it does not matter if you have $ 400,000 like Neke, if you don't have an edge, you can have massive losses. So starting small is better than blowing out a huge account since having more money in an account does not make your dick any bigger or you a better trader.

     
    #136     Mar 9, 2011
  7. RobertG

    RobertG

    You missing the point. The small margin brokers take is to attract smaller guys who dont know how to trade so they do gazillion traders, this is not meant to help the guy who has some sense and wants to trade. This is a whole new thread in itself.
     
    #137     Mar 9, 2011
  8. How am I missing the point when I put in that you need to know how to trade with an edge to make money. Also, I don't think you need a $ 20,000 - $ 100,000 account, if you want to practice live with real money to see if your strategies work. Sim is fine to test ideas, but once you see them working, you need to test with real money.

    Also, for example, I am not saying that say you put in $ 3,500 and you get 1 ES contract to trade for every $ 500, you should then put in a 6 contract trade, but if you want to trade 1 contract with a stop and profit target, then I don't think you are using insane leverage.

     
    #138     Mar 9, 2011
  9. RobertG

    RobertG

    $3,500 is 5% of the notional value of the ES. It's hard to grow that account if at all. Consider a drawdown of 2.5% of the notional value and you are wiped even trading a one lot.
     
    #139     Mar 10, 2011
  10. If you lose $ 3,500 on a single contract trade, then you don't know what you are doing. Even if you have a $ 100,000 account and lose $ 3,500 trading a single contract on ES, you still don't know what you are doing.

    Over time, you can blow a $ 3,500 account, but I don't see any proof this could happen with a single contract trade. If you really believe this, provide some proof like your brokerage statement on how you did this feat of stupidity.

     
    #140     Mar 10, 2011