Your Vaccine Passport

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, May 3, 2021.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    Thanks for making your opinion public.
     
    #271     Aug 15, 2021
  2. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    https://poiticaldiplomacy.com/behold-barack-antoinette/

    Behold Barack Antoinette

    WASHINGTON — Jay Gatsby gave big, lavish, new-money parties at his sprawling mansion on the water because he wanted to seem cool. He wanted Daisy to notice him.

    Barack Obama gave a big, lavish, new-money party at his sprawling mansion on the water because he wanted to seem cool. Being cool is important to him.

    One difference is that Gatsby opened his house to the uninvited. Obama closed his house to many of the invited after getting flak for hosting “a celebrity mosh pit,” as Stephen Colbert called it, while officials were telling people to mask back up.


    We already knew Obama gravitated to stars but it was disillusioning to see it on such a grand scale last weekend.

    “I think the nouveaux riches Obamas are seriously tone-deaf,” said the authority on opulence, Andre Leon Talley. “We all love Beyonce. But people have so many things to worry about with Covid, voting rights, climate warming. People are afraid of being evicted from their homes. And the Obamas are in Marie-Antoinette, tacky, let-them-eat-cake mode. They need to remember their humble roots.”

     
    #272     Aug 15, 2021
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Sorry, your narrative from yesterday is between them and you.

    The narrative going forward in your community may not be the same in my community (Québec) but at least you now have a heads up if you choose to come to Québec after September 1st. :D

    Listen, I'm not a fan of vaccine mandates but I have lived in an environment where vaccines were mandatory while growing up in a military family and again when I myself served in the Armed Forces. Those that refused...they were not arrested. Instead, they were not allowed to use the resources.
    • Also, I think you have a misunderstanding of a "Vaccination Passport" considering it has already been used for many decades aka "Vaccination Card". :D
    I remember when I was a kid, my old man was stationed in Brazil for about 1 1/2 years (embassy duty). We as his family allowed to go with him but only if we were vaccinated.

    Another situation, I remember when we moved from France to Chicago in the 70's...we had to show proof of vaccination to be enrolled in the elementary school's system as the same as all the other children regardless if they were military family or not. Thus, all parents had to show proof of vaccination for their children for enrollment in the schools.
    • There were a minority few that refused...they were then allowed to home school their children.
    Proof of vaccination was not only common in the state of Illinois...it was common in many states at that particular time in a battle against Smallpox. In fact, a few summers I stayed with my grandmother in South Dakota...they sent mobile vaccination trucks to the reservations for immunization of children.

    I would later learn it was also done in Illinois and Kentucky too in the regular public school systems. In fact, it didn't matter where our family lived as a military family...my parents always carried those vaccination cards to every Doctor visit and every military housing check-ins.

    In fact, its been a common theme since the 50s for many families that immigrants to the United States or Canada had to be vaccinated and today I read complaints (demands) that immigrants crossing the southern border of the United States should be vaccinated. :cool:

    Thus, proof of Vaccinations have been around much longer than you think and that raises the question...why is it a big deal now in comparison to not being a big deal in the past when diseases like Smallpox or Rubella were causing mayhem to the population ???

    Here's something else to think about...prior to Covid...many states already had requirements for proof of vaccination to enroll children in schools. It was not until Donald Trump lost the Presidential election that 9 of those states enacted new laws to ban vaccine mandates. :rolleyes:





    Life goes on and people learn to live with vaccinations if they want to use resources used by those that are vaccinated.

    Note: I mention some states have passed laws banning vaccination mandates...more clarification below.
    • The laws don't prevent officials from encouraging vaccinations, only from requiring it. So governors in these states are still pushing for people to roll up their sleeves, just not ordering it.
    • The vast majority of these laws apply only to state and local governments, meaning private schools and employers in those states can still pass vaccine mandates.
    wrbtrader
     
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    #273     Aug 15, 2021
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #274     Aug 18, 2021
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  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    #275     Aug 18, 2021
  6. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Define super spreader.

    203 testing positive is not a super spreader event?


    According to figures released by the city on Aug. 12, approximately 203 Lollapalooza attendees later tested positive for coronavirus. Of those, 58 were Chicago residents, and 138 were Illinois residents from elsewhere in the state.
     
    #276     Aug 18, 2021
  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Other events in the United States plan to have the same entry requirements because of the results in Chicago.

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    Attendees at the festival were required to either show proof of vaccination or proof of a negative COVID test before being granted entry. While some were critical of procedures designed to examine those proofs at the festival’s gates, Arwady says that she was satisfied with how concert organizers and city officials worked to put together, and implement, the policies.

    wrbtrader
     
    #277     Aug 18, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Out of 350,000 --- let's see if you can do the math.
     
    #278     Aug 18, 2021
  9. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Oh, so 203 people getting covid and then spreading to x amount of people is totally acceptable to you. Got it.

    What # would make it unacceptable to you?
     
    #279     Aug 18, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Statistically it is a small number in context of the overall number of people of the event.

    Second of all -- prove they got COVID at Lollapalloza and not elsewhere --- because this is what we hear about every other situation including teachers catching Covid at school.
     
    #280     Aug 18, 2021