YOUR Religion

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by estrader, Feb 5, 2006.

What is your religion/religious heritage?

  1. Christian

    54 vote(s)
    42.9%
  2. Buddist

    7 vote(s)
    5.6%
  3. Muslim

    11 vote(s)
    8.7%
  4. Hindu

    4 vote(s)
    3.2%
  5. Liberal

    3 vote(s)
    2.4%
  6. Marxist

    3 vote(s)
    2.4%
  7. Agnostic

    44 vote(s)
    34.9%
  1. jem,

    Since you are Catholic, allow me to phrase it this way:

    When you drink the Eucharistic wine, imagine that the wine has been transmuted into love. The wine IS love. Then imagine you are drinking this love into your heart...the old wineskin. More love! Then realize that the love in your heart is what physically causes the blood in your veins to flow. And if you want the blood to flow forever, just be more of the love that you are. This is the immortality. Your heart commands the God Particles.

    This is your Sacred Heart. It is a magnetic vortex located near your physical heart. When your Sacred Heart is fully activated, harmonized and ordered by love, it will transubstantiate the wine that is love into eternally flowing blood in your veins. To do this, you must first learn about your Sacred Heart and learn about how to center your life around it more completely. This is your true heart and your Sacred Chamber. Most people have closed it's doors by the end of childhood. After that, one's perception of life-creating particles diminishes, and what is left appears to be a fixed supply. Then, literally, a person uses up his life, consuming his life resources for structural investments as well as contradictory patterns of living. The result is depletion and old age.

    Only the true heart can sense the vital flow and exchange of particle energy. This is why you are more intuitive in the areas of your greater devotion. When the Sacred Heart comes to life again and its fire glows within, you will begin to magnetize a fresh supply of God Particles from an infinite abundant universe. There is no limit to the God Particles that can be drawn to you. These can be used for empowering your life, healing it, and lifting it to a much higher state of performance.

    The Sacred Heart is a Holy Chamber. This is the place where true prayer takes place. It is a place of peace and solitude, a place so powerfully connected with your Source, that all you have to do is to enter for prayer to occur. It doesn't matter what you say, or even if you say anything. Being there with your Father is the prayer, and entering the Holy Chamber is a sacred act. This is the true communion. An external place of silence and seclusion helps to promote an entry to the Holy Chamber. This is what Jesus meant when he said to go into a closet to pray. Words are not important, because the moment you substitute words for prayer, the point is lost. The only value of words is for focusing thoughts to a higher realm and the preparing of one's soul for surrender into sacred silence. As you are joined in the Holy Chamber with the Source of all that is, a power will be activated which will attract to you whatever is needed. This is a very special place within your beingness, and you can know when you have entered it by the complete stillness therein. Within it, there is a sacredness and purity like a blanket of new fallen snow. This is the communion. Keep trying. Knock, and it will open for you.


    Looking at the wineskins from a more macro point of view:

    This is how the love that is being poured out onto the Earth, now, at the beginning of the age of Light the coming age of Aquarius...so much love being poured out on the earth at this moment that it will have a shattering effect on some of the needless structures now prevailing. They will fall to the earth, as they must. Yet, from that will spring new life, new hope and new growth. The phenomenon of the priest scandal is relative to the love flowing into the earth along the kundalini resonances. Kundalini love is vital to the coming transformation. The old wineskins are not able to handle it...and it will result in the shattering of some institutional structures.

    Shoeshineboy seems not to like this new age. I don't know why.

    Here is why it is more important to be love than have love. Being love is the basis of true ownership. What the heart commands, it keeps. All the God Particles that have been designated for the purpose of your life and commanded by your heart are yours to keep forever.

    (continued...)
     
    #121     Mar 7, 2006
  2. Let's look at how this plays out in various ways...including reincarnation.

    Uncountable legions of God Particles simply belong to the universe, bequeathed by the Creator for common use through the forming of such elements as oxygen, nitrogen, carbon, and so forth. Such particles would return to their common matrix. Trillions to the cube root belong to the human race and would recirculate into newborn children according to ways in which their love resembles the pathway of love you left behind. Billions of God Particles have come to you through your family line and will return there to support future generations of children, according to similarities of love that you would have shared with them. In the days following your departure, the particles which you have exchanged with others, for the mutual sharing of life, will return to their rightful donors. However, at the moment of your passing, all the particles that you have personally magnetized by your heart and used in the creation of your life, will leave with you. They will either attach to your soul, or travel with you to a place you have marked with love, and will wait until your heart calls them forth again. Either way, they are yours forever. Often, such points of love are designated collectively by friends and family who wish to continue together in eternity or to return to some plane of existence and work together again.

    This is what Jesus meant when he said store up for yourself treasures in heaven. When your life has been lived with a very clear purpose, and when your love has been directed to principles and thoughts that carry it to higher planes of consciousness, then the treasures of your life will be stored more safely.

    On the other hand, when a person's love and life have been unclear and confused, peppered with insincerity and betrayal -- like JohnnyK -- his life particles (God Particles) can become lost in the lives of those he has hurt. This is not good for anyone concerned. All too often these lost particles are held hostage until debts are paid, which can cause great pain and confusion to all parties. It would be so much easier and healthier to forgive JohnnyK and to release.

    Balance can be lost in these situations. But it can be regained...in fact it MUSt be regained. One way is to let cause and effect balance what has been lost. That is karma. That's not the best way, or the only way. The best way is to fervently seek the restoration of wholeness whenever it has been lost. Through your Sacred Heart, and through the connection with your Source there, you can have your debt canceled by the greater power of love, grace and synchronicity. Karma is a base-level ethics action - a kind of police agenda for the universe. Although it works to rebalance life, and is necessary to the universe, it can injure souls. Bitter cycles of cause and effect balancing acts can be ended in your Sacred Heart by the grace of God.

    Karma exists along a horizontal reality in the realm of cause and effect. Grace exists along a vertical reality culminating in the realm of perfect synchronicity...a 'zero point' constant where love transforms quantities into qualities and visa versa. It is a point of reversal transference - a point of function where two complimentary forces, in the presence of a third stabilizing factor, exchange modes and one become the other. This is primary magnetism and compression.

    The primal power of love has within it a 'self awareness'. This is true whether you are referring to love as beingness or as energy. You might call it the 'I AM' force. Through internalized communion, the whole becomes aware of its variable possibilities. Differences of potential are established and activation of them begins. Simultaneously, through the aspect of energetic tension, energy is transferred from one extreme of expansion to another. By these reversals, torque is generated, and that sets into motion a spring wheel of magnetism. Magnetism is native to primal energy. Since you are part of that energy, you do not have to generate it or manipulate it mechanically. What you have to do is stabilize your connection with it through self awareness and acknowledgement. This is why love must be acknowledged as the basis of your self-awareness!

    Magnetic attraction explains the greater unity of existence, and it is actually magnetic cohesion that integrates interdimensional fields, which in turn support and connect all physical reality. Infinity is the unifying factor that integrates everything. God Particles belong to both the infinite world and to the limited realm of physical existence. They were the "first light" of creation. They are forever the light of consciousness. They provide the fuel and dynamic energy to propel thoughts into manifestation. They give flesh to spirit, as well as new life, beauty, nourishment, and healing to life. Because they are commanded by love and conform to the nature and will of spirit, God Particles belong to all dimensions.

    In a grand triangle of existence, love connects and commands the God Particles, while spirit resonates to love and connects all substance in perfect unity. In this infinite cycle of creation, each is part of the all and yet there are three discernable functions. Love is the source - the power which supplies all beingness with its life and energy. The God Particles are the truly uncuttable particles of infinity. These comprise the generic, universal body of all existence. And there is but one spirit - the continuous and unbroken matrix of all existence. The spirit is the basis for the Law of One which is violated by closed circles that make judgments about exclusivity or inclusion within creation...within the One.

    God is love. You are the image of God. When you see yourself as the Love that you Are...you can now see how you are a co-creator within the trinity that is God. As love, you are an extender of reality, and a life force. If you died, you could resurrect yourself. If you are breathing, you could breath forever.

    That's why it's better to be the love that you are, instead of settling for anything less. Be love and you can HAVE anything you desire.

    One last note: In your Sacred Heart, in that Holy Chamber, do not even speak of sin. Your father knows nothing of the sort. You are perfect and innocent in that place. All external appearances are deceiving. You will not be able to enter it if you think you are not worthy. When you receive the communion bread...do not say, "I am not worthy..." Say, "I am love" Only say the words: I AM LOVE! ... and you shall be healed.

    JohnnyK
     
    #122     Mar 7, 2006
  3. Okay, it's just that anyone can cut and paste. I'm just asking you to put a little of yourself into it.
     
    #123     Mar 7, 2006
  4. I disagree. It's very clear that you are to hate your father and mother as you hate yourself. Jesus was making a point and I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but I feel that you're trying to force what he was saying into something ludicrous because you dislike Christianity.

    Do you really think for a minute that He was saying to hate your father and mother?? That was grounds fro stoning in Jewish society. And, again, he tenderly cared for his own mother even at his death.

    You cannot just take one verse and rip it out from the entire body of work. That’s not fair in literature, history or any scholarly endeavor….
     
    #124     Mar 7, 2006
  5. The problem is that you are coming at this with the underlying assumption that it is false. And that’s fine, but it skews your objectivity (imo). Well, let me go through these one by one:

    1. Sargon II story – weak analogy. There is no comparison imo in quality, etc.
    2. If there really was a Flood – and as I’ve pointed out there is geological and anthropological evidence for a LOCAL flood in the Mesopotamian region at this time – then you would expect many culture to have traditions about it. The fact that some of them are similar only attests to the fact that there really was a Flood.
    3. Jesus’ story. Here we agree in a sense. There is no way to prove the Old Testament stories for me as a Christian. But, as a Christian, I can and should prove the “story” of Jesus. The Book of Acts left us a template for example. And the acid test is this: do we still see the same phenomenon today.

    What I’m getting at is this: if there is a Jesus, a devil, etc. then one would expect other traditions to counterfeit true spiritual phenomenon from God. For example, sacrifice has been practiced to deities and demons since the dawn of man and they are simply a counterfeit for the principof atonement that was well-understood.
    So what you are saying makes sense from either the ahumanistic perspective or the Christian. T
    The bottom line question is this: do miracles still occur today as in the Book of Acts?
     
    #125     Mar 7, 2006
  6. Yes, but you’re ignoring what I’m saying. I can’t blame you – everyone else does too. :)

    What I think your missing is that the New Age, which you’re dead center within, is at opposition with most world religions except perhaps Hinduism. You are pretending everything is Flower Power and Peace, but it isn’t.

    Why not admit either you’re right or you’re wrong? We can be mathematically right or wrong. Why can’t we be spiritually right or wrong?

    The New Age is just as oppositional - they just won't admit it...
     
    #126     Mar 7, 2006

  7. I was a New Ager before I became a Christian as you know. That’s why I know so much about it….
     
    #127     Mar 7, 2006
  8. Btw, Johnny, before I write anything else, I want you to know that I greatly appreciate your writing style and emphasis on love, etc. I only “go after you” because I used to think so similar to you. I actually thought there might be an Atlantis, I intensely read a channeler, etc., etc. I’m just trying to make you think – that’s all. But I’m not sure it’s working (not that you're not thinking but I'm just not getting my points across) ;)

    But I’ll give it another try. Look at what you wrote above in the quote. Now this is just one example of the things that you write. How do you know that we were once perfect? There is no evidence anywhere for it, so I cannot imagine where you came up with it. Yet you propose it as if it is some sort of immutable truth.

    And that’s what I mean by the fact that you so easily and casually make your own religion and then become excited about it. I just think it’s short sighted and dangerous. That’s just my two cents…

    SSB
     
    #128     Mar 7, 2006
  9. i don't dislike christianity any more than anything else that makes you surrender your mind in order to believe what you are told. christianity stands out because most christians are more educated than say muslims so when they preach and teach their children things like people rose from the dead or that there was a global flood that covered the highest mountains or that some unseen deity scooped up a handfull of clay and breathed on it and created man, they deserve to be challenged because they are being willfully ignorant and that is the worst kind of ignorance.
     
    #129     Mar 7, 2006
  10. the problem is many flood myths predate the bible flood myth so that indicates the bible writers made it up from earlier stories.
     
    #130     Mar 7, 2006