Your Mandatory Covid-19 Vaccine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Feb 26, 2021.

  1. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Since it is so small, it is clearly complete nonsense to say that the vaccinated need to be protected from the unvaxxed. So, it is just pure political propaganda.
     
    #501     Sep 10, 2021
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  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    What I'm given to understand is that breakthrough cases are a 1 in 5000 chance of occurring.
     
    #502     Sep 10, 2021
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  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    They were already gone for Idiot Dems, ---but yes.
     
    #503     Sep 10, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Note that most highly infectious diseases such as measles require a 97% or above vaccination rate to protect society.
     
    #504     Sep 10, 2021
  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    The unvaxxed needs to be protected from others that are not vaccinated with a Covid infection. Those vaccinated have a very low risk of hospitalization, ICU admission, or death.

    Regardless, the costs of Covid are now becoming a big drag on the economic recovery, and it's possible that those making healthcare policy decisions are now trying to protect that economic recovery.

    Politics has always been pure political propaganda since day 1 of the Pandemic when it was called a Democratic Hoax.

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    #505     Sep 10, 2021
  6. LS1Z28

    LS1Z28

    75.3% of adults in our country have already received at least 1 shot of the vaccine, and we're administering around 800K shots per day. The largest unvaccinated segment of our population are those that aren't eligible yet. Long story short, I don't think that this will have a large impact, even if it does hold up in court. The primary thing it will do is energize republicans to vote in the midterms.
     
    #506     Sep 10, 2021
  7. userque

    userque

    Who said that?
     
    #507     Sep 10, 2021
  8. userque

    userque

    It's been all in the news lately. But I'll try to simplify and sum it up here:

    The unvaxxed are more likely to need medical resources.
    When medical resources are disproportionately being utilized by the unvaxxed,
    Fewer medical resources are available to heart attack victims, auto accident victims, stroke victims, and all sorts of other victims needing medical resources.

    Non-covid related people needing medical resources have already died because hospitals were clogged up with unvaxxed covid victims.
     
    #508     Sep 10, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    An average Covid-19 hospitalization costs Medicare about 150 times more than it does to vaccinate one beneficiary
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/health/covid-19-hospitalization-cost-vaccination/index.htm

    A Medicare beneficiary hospitalized with Covid-19 costs the health insurance program about 150 times more than it does to fully vaccinate that individual, a CNN analysis shows.

    Covid-19 vaccines are provided at no direct cost to residents of the United States, but Medicare reimburses health care providers up to $150 to fully vaccinate beneficiaries with both doses of the two-dose regimen vaccines by Pfizer/BioNtech and Moderna, per billing documents published by the US Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. That's $40 for each dose administered and $35 to administer the shots at the individual's home or group living setting.

    Meantime, the average cost to hospitalize a Medicare beneficiary with Covid-19 is $21,752 over an average stay of 9.2 days, according to research published in August in the Annals of Internal Medicine. That's approximately 145 times the cost of vaccinating a Medicare beneficiary.

    Average fees associated with Covid-19 hospitalization were even higher if a patient needed a ventilator, bringing the cost to an average of $49,441 over 17.1 days -- more than 300 times the cost of administering the vaccines.

    Covid-19 hospitalizations in the United States are climbing again following a summer surge fueled by the Delta variant. In June and July, there were over 100,000 preventable Covid-19 hospitalizations among unvaccinated adults, an analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation showed.

    Assuming each cost about $20,000, the analysis said, these hospitalizations cost the country's health system more than $2 billion, underscoring just how crucial vaccinations are to the fight against the coronavirus.
    There are nearly 102,000 Covid-19 patients hospitalized across the country, per data from US Health and Human Services, with more than 25,800 patients in intensive care unit beds.

    "We know the pathway to end this pandemic," US Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy told CNN's Jim Acosta Wednesday. "That's getting vaccinated."

    According to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, approximately 53% of all Americans are fully vaccinated, while nearly 27% of the eligible population -- people 12 and older -- are not vaccinated. The current 7-day average of vaccinations initiated per day dropped 19% from last week and 30% from a month earlier, the data shows, though that could be due in part to the Labor Day holiday weekend.

    Murthy pointed to other respiratory viruses like those that cause the common cold that we are able to live with, saying, "What's different from those viruses and Delta is that they don't cost us the types of numbers that we see in terms of lives lost, in terms of hospitalizations."
     
    #509     Sep 10, 2021
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  10. VEGASDESERT

    VEGASDESERT

    #510     Sep 10, 2021