Your Mandatory Covid-19 Vaccine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Feb 26, 2021.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    Wouldn’t surprise me.

    Just happy to live where I do, expect my state’s population to grow exponentially as the madness kicks into full gear.
     
    #381     Aug 25, 2021
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    OK
     
    #382     Aug 25, 2021
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #383     Aug 25, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Nobody likes plague rats.... especially Wall Street.

    Antivaxxers become social outcasts on Wall Street
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/23/antivaxxers-become-social-outcasts-on-wall-street/

    As Wall Street scrambles to find safe ways to return its bankers to the office as the Delta variant surges, some financiers have found a scapegoat for the mess: the unvaccinated.

    “Most employees on Wall Street want vaccine mandates for anyone returning to the office,” Kathryn Wylde, president of Partnership for New York, told The Post, citing recent surveys.

    Some insiders take it a step further.

    “If you’re someone who is not vaccinated on Wall Street, you’re considered a loser,” one Wall Streeter told The Post.


    At JPMorgan, where the bank has reinstated a mask mandate for all employees regardless of vaccination status, some workers blame the unvaccinated as the reason everyone has to wear masks, according to sources close to the firm. Indeed, some JPMorgan employees have kvetched about having to accommodate those stubbornly refusing to get the COVID shot, the sources said.

    Other JPMorgan insiders counter that such thinking is simply wrong, noting that the company is just following the latest CDC guidance that encourages masking indoors regardless of vaccination status. Employees are happy to follow the new rules, they say.

    But at Goldman Sachs, it is only the unvaccinated who must wear masks — a visible sign, according to some employees, of their second-class status. On the trading floor at Goldman’s lower Manhattan headquarters at 200 West St., the jab-less are forced to sit at least a few seats away from the rest of their fully vaccinated teams, sources told The Post. The unvaccinated also are tested for coronavirus twice a week.

    As with JPMorgan, some insiders at Goldman insist the dustup over vaccinations is overblown. If anything, the unvaccinated attract more sympathy than anything else as they’re the ones facing the consequences of not getting the shot, according to one Goldman insider.

    “They probably feel slightly isolated,” the Goldman employee told The Post. “But where I am is very inclusive and relaxed.”

    Reps for JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs declined to comment.

    Across America, roughly 57 percent of people are vaccinated, but at top Wall Street firms, that number is north of 90 percent. As such, the unvaccinated may be susceptible to being viewed as a small minority standing in the way of getting back to business as usual.

    “They are certainly social outliers and maybe social pariahs,” one bank employee told The Post. “Whether it’s explicit or implicit, there will be a view about that employee — people will question whether they can do their jobs.”

    “Wall Street is all about evidence and if you can’t connect the dots to get vaccinated, how can you connect dots to get deals done?” this person added.

    Banks including Morgan Stanley and Citigroup are making it clear they want employees back at their desks come September. But they’re telling employees who haven’t gotten the jab to stay home — essentially excluding them from any office connection.

    Other firms are taking an even harder line. At Anthony Scaramucci’s investment fund SkyBridge Capital, people who don’t get vaccinated will get fired. “It’s get vaxxed or axed at SkyBridge,” Scaramucci told The Post.

    Scaramucci believes those who aren’t immunized could pose too much of a risk to their colleagues when SkyBridge brings people back to the office this fall. As a result, they will be getting the boot.

    “Not getting vaccinated is a horrifically selfish thing based on a lack of science,” Scaramucci added. “I’m passionate about this issue because I have an IQ above 100.”
     
    #384     Aug 25, 2021
  5. Comirnaty is not available yet
    BioNTech is still EAU
     
    #385     Aug 25, 2021
  6. Wallet

    Wallet

    :rolleyes:
     
    #386     Aug 25, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    FDA approval will not change anti-vaxxers' minds — but it does make vaccine mandates possible
    Trumpers were using the FDA as an excuse, not a reason. Only personal consequences will persuade them to vaccinate
    https://www.salon.com/2021/08/24/fd...--but-it-does-make-vaccine-mandates-possible/

    Last week, Dr. Anita Sircar, an infectious-disease physician in Los Angeles, wrote a moving piece for the Los Angeles Times about how doctors are losing compassion for COVID-19 patients, almost all of whom are willfully unvaccinated. She opens the article with a story of a 40-something father of two she had as a patient. His excuse for not vaccinating? "I was just waiting for the FDA to approve the vaccine first. I didn't want to take anything experimental."

    As Dr. Sircar notes, this is the same man who "started taking some hydroxychloroquine he had found on the internet," only to find it didn't work. In the hospital, she offered to treat him with Remdesivir, which had been under the same emergency use authorization as the vaccines "for most of last year and had not been studied or administered as widely as COVID-19 vaccines." While he accepted this much more experimental treatment, just as he experimented on himself at home, it was too late. He died.

    To be clear, the man's actual objection was not, as he said, that he "didn't want to take anything experimental." No, the likely reason was a right-wing propaganda blitz that has convinced Republican voters that refusing the shot is the best way to stick it to President Joe Biden and the hated Democrats. These are folks who booed Donald Trump himself for promoting the vaccination. The "FDA approval" excuse was only rolled out because even Trumpers know that saying "I'm risking COVID-19 to own the liberals" out loud sounds dumb. But remember, these are the same folks who reject the FDA's advice against eating horse paste.

    Yet far too many folks in government and media continue to confuse excuses for the actual reasons for vaccine refusal.

    On Monday, the FDA finally gave this much-ballyhooed full approval to the Pfizer vaccine, causing reports, such as the one in the Washington Post, that "public health officials are optimistic that a large swath of vaccine-hesitant Americans will be swayed" now to get the shot.

    Sure, maybe some will. According to Dr. Anthony Fauci, only about 20% of the unvaccinated will be swayed. But the grim reality is that most of the people citing the FDA approval as an excuse were just concealing their actual, Fox News-and-Facebook-disinfo-based reasons. Despite the efforts of Republicans like Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick to blame anyone else — in his case, Black people — for vaccine refusal, the reality is it's largely being driven by right-wing identity politics. In fact, recent NBC News polling shows the only group that isn't majority vaccinated is Trump voters.

    (More at above url)
     
    #387     Aug 25, 2021
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  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    It’s called a Trump rally. They pop up sporadically in fields full of cow dung. Enjoy.
     
    #388     Aug 25, 2021
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  9. Wallet

    Wallet

    Never attended one, but funny. :D
     
    #389     Aug 25, 2021
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    There are lots and lots of ways to get people vaccinated, Delta Airlines:

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    #390     Aug 25, 2021
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