You Heard It Here First!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by waggie945, Apr 8, 2004.

  1. taodr


    Waggie, you really are something.:D
  2. Have a very Good Friday and Happy Easter!
    Pray for our troops and may they come home safe and sound.

  3. "Also in August 2001, U.S. intelligence officials received two uncorroborated reports suggesting that terrorists might use airplanes, including one that suggested al-Qaida operatives were considering flying a plane into a U.S. embassy, current and former government officials said."

    "Those reports — among thousands of varied and uncorroborated threats received by the government each month — weren't deemed credible enough to tell Bush or his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), the officials said."

    And yet back on May 16th of 2002, Condi Rice held a press briefing and stated "I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people . . . would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile."

    This flies smack in the face of the following intelligence:

    In fact, ever since September 11, news reports had mentioned earlier warnings about that very sort of activity. On May 18, 2002, the Post’s Bob Woodward and Dan Eggen challenged Rice’s statement. After quoting Rice’s remark, they outlined some previous warnings:

    WOODWARD AND EGGEN: But a 1999 report prepared for the National Intelligence Council, an affiliate of the CIA, warned that terrorists associated with bin Laden might hijack an airplane and crash it into the Pentagon, White House or CIA headquarters.
    The report recounts well-known case studies of similar plots, including a 1995 plan by al Qaeda operatives to hijack and crash a dozen U.S. airliners in the South Pacific and pilot a light aircraft into Langley.

    “Suicide bomber(s) belonging to al-Qaida’s Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives (C-4 and semtex) into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or the White House,” the September 1999 report said.

    Woodward and Eggen recounted case studies which they said were “well-known.” But if these cases were well-known to some, they apparently weren’t well-known to Rice. On May 19, the Post’s Steve Fainaru examined the matter further:
    FAINARU: A broad array of signals—from foiled plots to FBI field interviews—suggested for years that al Qaeda-affiliated terrorist groups had considered employing airplanes as missiles and U.S. flight schools as pilot training grounds.
    The clues included a 1995 plot to blow up 11 American jetliners over the Pacific Ocean, then crash a light plane into CIA headquarters—a suicide mission to have been carried out by a Pakistani pilot who had trained at flight schools in North Carolina, Texas and New York.

    FBI investigators visited two of the flight schools in 1996 after the plot was uncovered in the Philippines, school operators said. In 1998 and 1999, analysts warned federal officials that terrorists might crash hijacked aircraft into landmarks such as the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. Then, last July, the Italian government closed airspace over Genoa and mounted antiaircraft batteries based on information that Islamic extremists were planning to use an airplane to kill President Bush. “There’s a lot of stuff that was out there,” said Stephen Gale, a terrorism specialist at the University of Pennsylvania who presented an analysis warning of airborne attacks to Federal Aviation Administration security officials in 1998.

    Fainaru provided more detail about that 1995 plot:
    FAINARU: The plot was uncovered when a Pakistani national, Abdul Hakim Murad, was discovered mixing a bomb in his Manila apartment. He later confessed to Philippine authorities that he was part of a conspiracy to deploy five-man teams to plant bombs on 11 planes operated by United, Delta and Northwest airlines…
    As part of “Project Bojinka”—Serbo-Croatian for “loud bang”—Murad was to crash a light aircraft loaded with explosives into CIA headquarters at Langley, he later told investigators…

    Murad’s arrest came 13 days after four members of an Algerian terrorist group linked to al Qaeda hijacked an Air France flight as it prepared to leave Algeria for Paris. French authorities learned that the men planned to crash the plane into a Paris landmark such as the Eiffel Tower; commandos killed the hijackers during a refueling stop before the suicide plot could be carried out.

    According to Fainaru, the Eiffel Tower had also been a target. For the record, earlier reports had described the plan differently, saying the Algerians had planned to explode the hijacked plane over the Paris landmark.
    At any rate, Rice’s comment was hard to square with these earlier, “well-known” episodes. Was Rice really ignorant of these matters? Or had she been bending it—bending it good? You’d think a real press corps would want to know, but we have never seen Rice questioned about her odd May 16 statement. Nor was she asked last Wednesday night about the startling report from the White House, in which we were told that the president’s National Security Adviser hadn’t read last October’s NIE.

    Rice couldn’t imagine planes used as missiles? Rice hadn’t read last October’s NIE?

    Gee, who's lying now?
  4. Who's Lying Now, Condi???
  5. You are a poor excuse for a compatriot. Go to hell.
  6. Ooooooooooo, did I strike a nerve in Crawford, Texas?

    Sorry buddy, I thought everyone done there loved chopping wood while our country was being attacked?