You are NOT alone…..trading and depression.

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by insert, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. vectors101

    vectors101 Guest

    if you can't withdraw all your money from your account for a month and not trade not look at the market not watch any business news at all ,,,,you are addicted.[

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    gambling addiction and fraud and market manipulation and cheating (artifical intelligence) is dirty secret in wall street that nobody wants to admit. [/QUOTE]
     
    #41     Sep 11, 2007
  2. vectors101

    vectors101 Guest

    gambling addiction is the reason for the downfall of all great traders.


     
    #42     Sep 11, 2007
  3. vectors101

    vectors101 Guest

    when they say pigs get slaughtered it means don't try to steal too much from the market makers and brokers who are price leaders and control the market via market manipulation.

    when you are trading , your profits are from the market makers or losses of other traders.

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    #43     Sep 11, 2007
  4. vectors101

    vectors101 Guest

    close your account, get a REAL JOB if you can. you can still play this game part time.

    the market is not about trading for a living that what market makers do...the market is a casino to make some EASY MONEY not work for the money...


     
    #44     Sep 11, 2007
  5. vectors101

    vectors101 Guest

    It's not a business...and told think it's a business or job. it's a way to make easy money man.

     
    #45     Sep 11, 2007
  6. vectors101

    vectors101 Guest

    like i said many times if you are losing

    1. it's either your technique is not good
    2. your emontional stamina is not good
    3. you don't know how to trade or care to learn ,you just want to gamble .

     
    #46     Sep 11, 2007
  7. vectors101

    vectors101 Guest

    don't be be paranoid if the market makers are trying to screw you during intra-day, they are trying to steal you money--it's their job to rob you...it's artificial intelligence, the computers knows your stops and positions.


     
    #47     Sep 11, 2007
  8. Good God GUYS

    WOW i feel like I just watched Beaches after reading posts

    Anyway first thing you do when trading is know how markets work !!!!!!!!!

    then the indicators, trading plans and money mgmt. will come in to play, when you trade the futures markets they are ZERO SUM
    - commish 4-5 bucks round turn
    so if you say we all loose that is impossible, can't happen & no way, you see the market does not pay us, traders pay us

    the looses are like lunch for the tigers, you need to find where the looses are in order to trade

    your next question is ok smart ass how we do that!!

    well there are many ways but first you have to know what kind of trader are you

    Scalper, 2-3 pts, trend trader ( meaning looking for 5-8 points )
    position trader ( Meaning overnite carry )

    That is big prob. for traders you may get 2-3 pts on S&P points
    get out of trade and it runs 4 more so next time you take trade
    you get 3.5 pts and you hold for those 4 more you did not get on last trade then it goes against you 4 and the looses begin to mount you will not get out maybe you add to your position ( that is always a great idea ) LOL and it runs 2-3 more and you end up puking the entire trade

    That is just one case that WILL happen, you need to know who you are and why you trade before you put on your position how much do I expect to make ( but really I mean how much can I take from my fellow trader ) sad but true.

    you need to know why and who is going to pay you, time frame
    is huge on this, shorter the chart time frame less you will make
    but less heat on trade

    best thing to do is walk away from your comp right after every trade get some water go pee whatever just get away, winner or looser, that way if market keeps on going you dont suffer regret for getting out or if loosing trade you know you will look for impulse trade to get money back, that trade is sure to be another looser

    I could go on and on but really you guys and girls if you put on trade just ask your self one question

    ( WHO AND WHY ) because they will be the ones paying you

    P.S. I do have indicators that help alot, but what helps most is
    getting up after every trade.
     
    #48     Sep 11, 2007
  9. jdizzle

    jdizzle

    So the stats say 95% of traders don't make it. But how many of those 95% are just shooting stars burning out after one try? People that tried it once or twice because they thought it was easy money and then quickly realized it wasn't easy money and wasn't for them and then quit? What would the % be for people that have kept at it repeatedly I wonder?
     
    #49     Sep 11, 2007
  10. Good point jdizzle

    what % of people dont make it in business

    hmmmm think about that, most fail in first year doing anything

    but people still try to make it, and the ones who
    work harder and smarter and dont give up are the ones who prosper
     
    #50     Sep 11, 2007