Yesterday’s ominous trading on wall street

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Innervoice, Nov 5, 2022.

  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Yes, there were tremendous moves in commodity stocks and some small caps in the last few weeks that many traders on here seem to be oblivious to. Traders obsessed with shorting US indexes as we move into traditionally strong months are likely missing the boat. When I see commodity prices strong on a weaker US$ and other factors some days I'm amazed that some traders are still locked into shorting US indexes or even worse trying to buy UVXY on dips as it drops 30% in a month. Come on now that UVXY trade is brutally bad.

    Yes, playing the range on QQQ is possible; so are mining stocks but there are a few copper stocks threatening to break out ( Capstone already did ). Silver broke $20 again. Last time this happened it didn't stick but seasonally it might now. Energy has been on a tremendous run for several weeks. TSX energy there was profit taking Friday after a spike opening on great earnings. Logically, these stocks will move higher from here but that Friday action was annoying and so the short term rally could be derailed by any weakness in Oil price Monday. More likely is the small dip gets immediately bought up Monday imo.

    The common theme is if you play the short term ranges you can do well. The exception may be energy the proven fundamentals on earnings may translate in a continued relentless trend up to previous 52 week highs and beyond. Or not such is markets.
     
    #11     Nov 6, 2022
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  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    IMO dollar is not even close to peaking - just like 10year yield.
     
    #12     Nov 6, 2022
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  3. zdreg

    zdreg

    Last edited: Nov 6, 2022
    #13     Nov 6, 2022
  4. zdreg

    zdreg

    It is a race to the bottom for fiat currencies. Jim Rogers, without a time table, predicts the Yen will collapse.
     
    #14     Nov 6, 2022
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  5. zdreg

    zdreg

    Your question deserves more exposure. For answers, give it a separate thread of its own.
     
    #15     Nov 6, 2022
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  6. NCC1701

    NCC1701

    I was long going into fed, but got taken out. I am extremely nervous being long right now, even though December is statistically the best month of the year. Trivia- I heard one analyst say Oct.27 to Nov. 2 never has lost in something last the last 50 years, well we broke that record. I do like historical data but it is curve fitting and cherry picking to a large degree
     
    #16     Nov 6, 2022
  7. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    I'm up 11% account wide since Oct 1. Puts me well above my "bail out" levels so I have no need to sell some really good risk/reward plays in energy short term. When stocks turn the corner almost no one is buying them. Then people reach a dilemma do I jump in at higher prices and often the answer is no. Then you miss the main moves entirely.

    When JPM hit $102 the sentiment was brutal; it's now $131. If you bought at $102 or even $110 ( historically good entry points ), you can't really lose at this point. Buying at $131 is a dilemma or even on a pullback at what level ? The real decision is at what price do I feel is a good entry point long term regardless of short term market moves. For JPM it has a history of being a great buy at $110 or less. Repeatedly.
     
    #17     Nov 6, 2022
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  8. Wide Tailz

    Wide Tailz

    The job of the market is to make transactions. If enough potential money is lying there it will sometimes spark violently like a bolt of lightning looking for a path to ground, and trigger those sales.

    The market dies with price fixing or cornering a commodity / stock. Sales volume goes way down.

    The opposite happens with undercapitalized traderz enter with tight stops during potentially powerful events. Props to Ken if he can make this work in these tumultous times, but it's like standing in a field during a storm with a golf club!
     
    #18     Nov 6, 2022
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Agee with that, curve fitting and cherry picking part that is. While markets do have a memory short term look back is a different story and more predictable - to me at least.
     
    #19     Nov 7, 2022
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  10. zdreg

    zdreg

    It fits the old cliché hindsight is 100 per cent.
     
    #20     Nov 7, 2022