Yesterday's Hi-Lo range on the ES: a favor

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by candletrader, Jul 29, 2003.

  1. Also looks as if SPY is heading towards the lowest volume full day of the year.
     
    #41     Aug 8, 2003
  2. Fortunately I only traded once today (for a small loss)...
     
    #42     Aug 8, 2003
  3. Looks like 3 days inside the 5th August bar. I wonder where this is going next...

    Best

    Natalie
     
    #43     Aug 8, 2003
  4. DougS

    DougS

    Days like today in the ES make me glad I trade the Bund. I have to get up in the middle of the night but its been worth it.

    today's bund chart
     
    #44     Aug 8, 2003
  5. bubba7

    bubba7

    Looks like the only news is busted stops after they cascade to open the H/L for the day....lol
     
    #45     Aug 9, 2003


  6. Acrary, I'm not sure what you mean by "it seems to account for about 70% of the volatility changes". Did you mean that the reduced level of the index accounts for the change in volatility?
    In what way?
    If you check the figures I provide below, volatility has been steadily increasing since 1995 regardless of the index level, the only exception being this year.

    I used your data for the average daily range (the "perfect trader" data) and calculated the average price of the index for that year by taking bimonthly data (except for 03, monthly).

    The %figure is the avg volatility then. I done it manually, as I'm not using any datamining software.

    (Year, daily range, volatility)

    1990 5.0 1.49%
    1991 4.6 1.22%
    1992 3.8 0.91%
    1993 3.5 0.77%
    1994 4.1 0.94%
    1995 4.3 0.79%
    1996 7.4 1.10%
    1997 13.8 1.58%
    1998 17.7 1.64
    1999 20.7 1.58
    2000 26.1 1.84
    2001 21.1 1.77
    2002 20.0 2.04
    2003 15.5 1.70


    So, obviously the absolute range will fall with the index level, but the actual %volatility has been, according this, steadily increasing.

    Of course that has implications in terms of extra commissions if you need to increase trade size to compensate, but why would you suggest that the increased size has greater risk implications? The value of the stop is obviulsly going to be smaller too isn't it? Or did you mean that risk is increased simply because you're holding more contracts? (and anything can happen)
     
    #46     Aug 12, 2003
  7. Gordon Gekko,

    Your are now in the trap of anticipating, based on opinions, and not trading what is on the screen right before your eyes...External information is the worst info you can get...You start to trade it instead of the market...Greenspan speaks, trade the system you have backtested and proven for years..GO OUTSIDE THE BOX...LEARN FROM NO ONE BUT YOURSELF. IF YOU CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT, LEAVE IT ALONE...
     
    #47     Aug 16, 2003
  8. This summer is very similiar to the one two years ago before 9/11. I think this year we will see how '01 would have played out without the attack.
     
    #48     Aug 16, 2003
  9. Here is a chart of the % of the open price that the Range of NQ has for 2002 and 2003 ytd

    Interesting contraction

    Again - I'm hoping that this contraction doesn't continue on its current trend, and bottoms out soon, otherwise the 0.5 spread is going to become a significant factor...

    best
    Natalie
     
    #49     Aug 21, 2003
  10. Tick size, measured as average % of monthly average daily range, is currently running at about 1.7% of range on ES and about 2.1% on NQ.


    Just another little statistic that may be useful to someone. :)

    Best

    Natalie
     
    #50     Aug 21, 2003