Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    LMAO, you're so gullible about the Godly Jews intentions.
    The Jews peace with Palestinians?
    Hahahaha
     
    #911     Nov 29, 2023
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Extending the temporary truce would benefit both sides of the conflict --- but neither is likely to do so.


    Israel and Hamas have a lot to gain from a truce extension. But fighting is likely to resume anyway

    https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live...s-11-29-23/h_dfb3a644945c8d3b979acd1f24240350

    Both Israel and Hamas may have a lot to gain from an extension of the current truce. But experts say the eventual resumption of Israel’s military campaign in the Gaza Strip is inevitable.

    The pause in fighting between Israel and Hamas — which has seen the militant group release hostages abducted on October 7 in exchange for Palestinians held in Israeli prisons — has now entered its sixth and potentially final day. Yet negotiators are working towards another extension, which could see the release of more hostages and prolong the break in the Israeli military’s campaign in Gaza.

    For Israel, an extension means the return of tens of more hostages, which is particularly important for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu who has come under intense pressure from the Israeli public to bring the hostages home. For Hamas, it offers a respite from fighting, a chance to regroup and benefit from the aid gradually making its way into the besieged territory.

    Over the first five days of the truce, Hamas released 81 hostages, primarily women and children. Roughly 240 hostages were kidnapped during the Hamas attack on Israel.

    Israel has released 180 Palestinian women and minors from prison, many of whom were detained and never charged.

    “The main interest (for Israelis) is in getting those hostages home,” Gershon Baskin, a former Israeli hostage negotiator who once acted as a channel to Hamas, told CNN. “The whole country is glued to the television watching them transported in Red Cross cars and then landing in Israel.”
    For Hamas, Baskin said, there is no need to hold civilian hostages. “It is a burden on their logistics,” he said, adding that they likely only want to keep Israeli troops as hostages. Israel has not said how many of its soldiers are being held by the militant group, but Baskin said there is little expectation that Hamas will release them as part of the current deal.

    With a truce extension, Hamas may also be hoping that international pressure will pile on Israel to avoid a resumption of the war, Baskin said while noting that Israeli society is overwhelmingly supportive of a conflict that eliminates Hamas once and for all.

    A poll of the public in Israel conducted earlier this month by the Israel Democracy Institute showed that a majority of respondents believe “Israel should negotiate immediately with Hamas over the release of the hostages in Gaza, but should not halt the fighting.”

    Some ministers in Israel’s extreme right-wing government are going to greater lengths to ensure fighting resumes. Israel's minister of national security, Itamar Ben-Gvir, on Tuesday threatened to break up the ruling coalition if the war ends.

    But negotiations are likely complicated by reports that Hamas is not in possession of all the hostages. A diplomatic source briefed on the negotiations told CNN on Monday that more than 40 hostages are not currently held by Hamas, and CNN has previously reported that an estimated 40 to 50 hostages were held by Palestinian Islamic Jihad or other groups or individuals.

    Israel believes 159 hostages are still in Gaza, Netanyahu’s office told CNN Wednesday.

    Baskin said it is extremely unlikely that after seven weeks, Hamas cannot locate the rest of the hostages, adding that the group is likely propagating that news to stall the negotiations.

    “It’s a delay tactic on the part of Hamas,” he said, adding that the group is too powerful and too centralized in the enclave to lose sight of the hostages.
     
    #912     Nov 29, 2023
  3. themickey

    themickey

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    Yes of course the hostages are kept very safe by Israel after their fucking blitzkrieg of civilian Gaza.
     
    #913     Nov 29, 2023
  4. themickey

    themickey

    Jewish logic and intelligence.

    "We want peace"
    "We want our hostages back"
    "Hamas have tunelled beneath hospitals."
    "Lets fucking blow up the hospitals and destroy them"
    "If doctors and ambulances get shot by tank fire, tough shit"

    Meanwhile Biden: "how much more ammo and missiles do you want?"
     
    #914     Nov 29, 2023
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Kind of ironic, two leaders, Godly Jews, both Netanyahu and Zelinskyy up to their necks in killing people, both don't want peace, both trying to suck America and Nato into their problems, both got their fucking hands out for aid, saying that, I do sympathize more with Ukraine than Israel.
    Ukraine is underdog, Israel, power gone to the head.
     
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    #915     Nov 29, 2023
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    More info on extending the truce...

    Analysis: Why extending the Israel-Hamas truce won’t be easy
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/29/analysis-why-extending-the-israel-hamas-truce-wont-be-easy
     
    #916     Nov 29, 2023
  7. themickey

    themickey

    Truce?!?!
    Hahaha, Biden and Netanyahu are playing the media and public like a fiddle.
    "Truce" is for the gullible's consumption.

    Short memories will have already forgotten Netanyahu's words, " this will be a long drawn out war", not to forget he also proclaimed the war.
     
    #917     Nov 29, 2023
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Netanyahu, his government, and Israeli security officials have some explaining to do.

    Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan more than a year before the Oct. 7 attack but dismissed it as aspirational, documents show.
    A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials considered it too difficult for Hamas to carry out and ignored specific warnings.
    Thursday, November 30, 2023 7:31 PM ET
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

     
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    #918     Nov 30, 2023
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #919     Nov 30, 2023
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Is Israel the terrorist group for indiscriminately bombing the shit out of Gaza w/no regard for the hostages?
     
    #920     Nov 30, 2023
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