Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    @gwb-trading the insufferable troll switching back and forward between 'news' sources, jpost and dailymail.

    Wikipedia determination of unreliability of Dailymail.
    This section is an excerpt from Perennial sources list § Daily Mail.[edit]
    In February 2017, pursuant to a formal community discussion, editors on the English Wikipedia banned the use of the Daily Mail as a source in most cases.[248][249][250] Its use as a reference is now "generally prohibited, especially when other more reliable sources exist",[251][248][252] and it can no longer be used as proof of notability.[248] The Daily Mail can still be used as a source in an about-self fashion, when the Daily Mail itself is the subject of discussion.[253][254] Support for the ban centred on "the Daily Mail's reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication".[251][248][249] Some users opposed the decision, arguing that it is "actually reliable for some subjects" and "may have been more reliable historically."[255] The Daily Mail thus became the first deprecated source.[250]

    Wikipedia's ban of the Daily Mail generated a significant amount of media attention, especially from the British media.[254] Though the Daily Mail strongly contested this decision by the community, Wikipedia's co-founder Jimmy Wales backed the community's choice, saying: "I think what [the Daily Mail has] done brilliantly in this ad funded world [is] they've mastered the art of clickbait, they've mastered the art of hyped-up headlines. They've also mastered the art of—I'm sad to say—of running stories that simply aren't true. And that's why Wikipedia decided not to accept them as a source anymore. It's very problematic, they get very upset when we say this, but it's just fact."[256] A February 2017 editorial in The Times on the decision said: "Newspapers make errors and have the responsibility to correct them. Wikipedia editors' fastidiousness, however, appears to reflect less a concern for accuracy than dislike of the Daily Mail's opinions."[257] Slate writer Will Oremus said the decision "should encourage more careful sourcing across Wikipedia while doubling as a richly deserved rebuke to a publication that represents some of the worst forces in online news."[255]

    In 2018, the Wikipedia community upheld the Daily Mail's deprecation as a source.[254]
    Racism accusations
    There have been accusations of racism against the Daily Mail.[258] In 2012, in an article for The New Yorker, former Mail reporter Brendan Montague criticised the Mail's content and culture, stating: "None of the front-line reporters I worked with were racist, but there's institutional racism [at the Daily Mail]".[18]

    In August 2020, a group of Palm Islanders in Queensland, Australia, lodged a complaint with the Australian Human Rights Commission under Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 against the Daily Mail and 9News, alleging that they had broadcast and published reports that were inaccurate and racist about the Indigenous Australian recipients of compensation after the Palm Island Class Action.[259][260][261][262]

    In 2021, IPSO ruled that the Daily Mail dishonestly published a headline falsely claiming to report on "British towns that are no-go areas for white people".[263] The town showcased was the wealthy Manchester suburb of Didsbury, which it had described the previous month as "posh and leafy" and a "property hotspot".[264]
     
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  2. themickey

    themickey

    It's bemusing, @gwb-trading detests Trumps lying but then supports the bs heavily biased clickbait news such as jpost fed by Israels military who shoot dead journalists in Gaza.
     
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Let's see what France has to say about Greta and her selfie yacht crowd.

    France accuses aid boat activists of exploiting Gaza suffering
    French officials on Wednesday accused the activists who sailed on a Gaza-bound aid boat of exploiting the suffering of Palestinians for political attention.
    https://www.newarab.com/news/france-accuses-aid-boat-activists-exploiting-gaza-suffering
     
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's catch up with the information from earlier this week on ceasefire proposals, Trump demanding Netanyahu to end the war and nuclear negotiations with Iran.

    Trump said to have told Netanyahu to end Gaza war, attacking Iran off limits for now
    In call on Monday, US president also reportedly told PM that threats to strike Iran ‘aren’t helping’ nuclear talks; CENTCOM chief says White House has ‘wide range of options’ if negotiations fail
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump...d-gaza-war-attacking-iran-off-limits-for-now/

    In a tense 40-minute phone call with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday, US President Donald Trump told the premier he must permanently end the war in the Gaza Strip, Israeli television reported Tuesday.


    Trump reportedly told Netanyahu that the so-called “Witkoff framework,” which would pause the war for some 60 days in exchange for about half of the hostages held by Hamas, will not suffice.

    Netanyahu has so far refused to negotiate a Gaza truce-hostage deal that would permanently end the fighting in the Strip — a red line for him and his far-right coalition partners.

    The US president reportedly told Netanyahu that ending the war in Gaza would help with both the administration’s ongoing nuclear negotiations with Iran and normalization talks with Saudi Arabia.

    Trump also ruled out an attack on Iran as the White House seeks to rein in Tehran’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief, according to the reports.

    The reports by Channel 12 and the Kan public broadcaster, which quoted the English-language conversation in Hebrew, came as Trump told US media that the Iranians had become “much more aggressive” in the talks.

    Meanwhile, the top US military commander in the Middle East said he has provided Trump and US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth with “a wide range of options” for preventing Iran from attaining nuclear arms should talks with Tehran fall through.

    Channel 12 reported that there would be no discussions on a strike against Iran until Trump determines that the nuclear talks have failed. The network also cited two sources familiar with the phone call as saying Netanyahu did not receive a clear answer from Trump as to whether the US would give Israel a green light to act alone against Iran, or whether Washington would want to participate in or lead a strike.

    According to the network, Trump said he has not completed his efforts in the US-Iran nuclear talks, adding that despite his disapproval of Iran’s latest offer, the door on negotiations has not closed.

    Netanyahu replied that a “credible military threat” must be kept on Iran at all times, to which Trump responded that a strike must be “taken off the table for now,” the report added.

    According to Kan, Netanyahu told Trump that “the negotiations with Iran are futile, Iran is playing you and all it’s trying to do is to gain time.”

    “Your statements about an attack on Iran aren’t helping. We’re working on a deal,” Trump was said to have replied, though White House sources cited by Fox News on Tuesday appeared to agree with Netanyahu’s comment.

    Both Kan and Channel 12 said Netanyahu’s office declined to comment on the conversation with Trump. On Monday, in a sparse readout of the conversation, Netanyahu’s office said Trump had told the premier that Washington has presented Tehran with a “reasonable proposal” and expects a response “in the coming days.”

    On Tuesday, Fox News quoted Trump as saying Iran was “acting much differently in negotiations than it did just days ago.”

    “Much more aggressive,” said Trump, according to the cable news network.

    “It’s surprising to me. It’s disappointing, but we are set to meet again tomorrow — we’ll see,” he added, though Iran’s foreign ministry spokesperson said the sixth round of talks was set for Sunday in Oman.

    US attack plans drawn up in case talks fail
    Iran’s leaders, who are sworn to destroy Israel, have publicly denied seeking nuclear weapons, but have stocked up on 60%-enriched uranium — far above what is necessary for civilian uses, and a short step away from weapons-grade. US officials are reportedly concerned that Israel could strike Iran’s nuclear sites with little warning.

    Netanyahu has demanded that any nuclear deal with Iran fully dismantle the Islamic Republic’s nuclear facilities and uranium enrichment sites. Speaking to reporters after the phone call on Monday, Trump said Washington would not allow Tehran to enrich uranium on its soil.

    The US proposal for a nuclear deal would reportedly allow just that, though, for a temporary period of time. Iran’s parliament speaker said Monday that the proposal did not mention sanctions relief, calling Trump “delusional” for thinking Tehran would accept the offer.

    In a statement Tuesday, Iranian parliamentarians accused the US and Israel of laying a “strategic trap” for Iran in the nuclear talks.

    The White House “has set the goal of talks as imposing its demands and has adopted offensive positions that are diametrically opposed to Iranians’ inalienable rights,” said the statement. “The only acceptable deal is one that permanently lifts all sanctions with the aim of achieving economic benefits for Iran.”

    CENTCOM attack plans
    Gen. Michael Kurilla, the outgoing commander of the US Central Command, told American lawmakers that he presented the White House with plans for a strike on Iran in case the nuclear talks fail.

    During a hearing of the US House Armed Services Committee, the committee’s Republican chair, Representative Mike D. Rogers of Alabama, asked Kurilla whether CENTCOM would be “prepared to respond with overwhelming force to prevent a nuclear-armed Iran” if Trump orders such a strike.

    “I have provided the secretary of defense and the president a wide range of options,” said Kurilla.

    “I take that as a yes,” Rogers replied.

    “Yes,” said the general.

    During his testimony, Kurilla said Iran has reached a 40-year low point strategically amid the “tectonic shift” unleashed in the region by the Hamas onslaught of October 7, 2023, which sparked the war in Gaza.

    During that time, Syrian rebels ousted their country’s Iran-backed President Bashar Al-Assad, and Lebanon’s Iranian proxy Hezbollah has emerged severely weakened from war with Israel.

    “This dealt a massive blow to Iran’s terror network,” said Kurilla. “The Iranian proxies are at one of the weakest levels they’ve been.”

    Kurilla noted that the regional conflict saw Israel and Iran come to direct blows for the first time, with Iran launching massive barrages of ballistic missiles and drones at Israel in April and October last year. Israel’s reprisals, which damaged Iran’s air defenses, have reportedly left the Islamic Republic bracing for a strike on its nuclear sites.
     
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Hamas following through on its threats to kill anyone helping the GHF distribute food. The terrorists want to steal all the food entering Gaza so they can resell it to pay their militants.

    Gaza Humanitarian Foundation says Hamas attacked a bus of its workers, 5 dead
    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...s-attacked-bus-its-workers-5-dead-2025-06-11/

    The U.S- and Israeli-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation accused Hamas militants of attacking a bus on Wednesday carrying Palestinians working with the organization, leading to at least five deaths and multiple injuries.
     
  6. themickey

    themickey

    Marco Rubio Says US 'Committed' to Russian People
    Published Jun 12, 2025 By Brendan Cole Senior News Reporter
    https://www.newsweek.com/rubio-russia-us-committed-2084371

    Secretary of State Marco Rubio has said that the U.S. "remains committed to supporting the Russian people" as they mark a national holiday.

    The statement issued Thursday to coincide with Russia Day said that the U.S. wants "constructive engagement" with Moscow to bring about a durable peace between Russia and Ukraine.

    Rubio's comments was widely reported by Russian state media and it appears to be the first time the U.S. has issued a statement about Russia Day since 2021, the year before the start of Moscow's full-scale invasion.

    "It is our hope that peace will foster more mutually beneficial relations between our countries," the statement added.

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    Secretary of State Marco Rubio speaks at the American Compass's The New World Gala in Washington, Tuesday, June 3, 2025. Mark Schiefelbein/AP Photo
     
  7. themickey

    themickey

    Ooohhhh yeah, Israel is full of Russians, what a coincidence.
     
  8. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Like the Trumpers, it's whatever is emotionally fulfilling in than moment. Their executive function is buggered.

    Amygdala processes emotional reactions, especially fear and anger.Prefrontal cortex handles rational thought, impulse control, and decision-making.

    When someone encounters content that triggers a strong emotional response, fear of cultural decline, anger at perceived injustice, pride in national identity, race/deformity, the amygdala activates rapidly and strongly. This can override the slower, more rational processes of the prefrontal cortex. So even if he knows the source is trash, the feeling it gives him can dominate.

    “I know it’s crap, but it feels true.” Eventually, they don't even know it's crap. Mind you with just a few exceptions, most who post a lot on ET have some executive function problem.

    What is crap is how LAX is set up now. They make you get a bus that takes near a half hour including waiting to get to the Uber pickup. But if you walked it, it's actually just 20 minutes... Then I find out that Uber Black is curbside...
     
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

  10. themickey

    themickey

    Ukraine blasts Russia Day well-wishers as Rubio sends greetings to Moscow

    “Particularly unpleasant,” says Kyiv foreign minister.

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    Andrii Sybiha‎ said at a meeting in Rome that it was “particularly unpleasant” for him to read “the public congratulations from certain countries to the Russian aggressor,” though he did not specifically name the countries in question. | Alessandro di Meo/EFE via EPA

    June 12, 2025 6:06 pm CET By Yurii Stasiuk
    https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-foreign-minister-andrii-sybiha-russia-day-marco-rubio/

    Ukraine’s Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha‎ slammed countries that extended good wishes to Moscow, as U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio congratulated the Russian people on Russia Day this Thursday.

    No senior U.S. official before Rubio had congratulated Russia on its national day since the Kremlin began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. No other allied Western leaders have done so this year either.

    Sybiha said at a meeting in Rome that it was “particularly unpleasant” for him to read “the public congratulations from certain countries to the Russian aggressor,” though he did not specifically name the countries in question.

    In his congratulatory message, Rubio wrote that the U.S. “remains committed to supporting the Russian people as they continue to build on their aspirations for a brighter future.”

    “We also take this opportunity to reaffirm the United States’ desire for constructive engagement with the Russian Federation to bring about a durable peace between Russia and Ukraine,” he wrote. “It is our hope that peace will foster more mutually beneficial relations between our countries.”

    Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov called Rubio’s greeting “very positive news,” which confirms that the current White House administration is “completely different from the previous Biden administration.”

    Since returning to the White House, President Donald Trump has sought to reset relations with Russia and President Vladimir Putin, who he has praised repeatedly since first taking office in 2016. But in recent weeks, Trump has shown signs of frustration with Putin and questioned Moscow’s willingness to make peace with Ukraine.

    “Russia is simply lying to Trump,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Wednesday, adding that he hopes the White House recognizes that.