Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    National service is manditory for over 18s.

    Three years for the men, two for the women.
     
    #41     Oct 8, 2023
  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    What was the point of training them to be soldiers for three years if it was not to train soldiers? You do know the age profile at a trance festival.

    Groups like this justify with regards "legitimate military targets" etc.

    Everybody who has been in the IDF is in the reserves until they are 40.
     
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    #42     Oct 8, 2023
  3. themickey

    themickey

    Where should they go?’ Politician fears for Gaza citizens
    By Broede Carmody
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle...israel-launches-response-20231008-p5eank.html


    Palestinian politician Mustafa Barghouti says he’s concerned Israelis like Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, when vowing “mighty vengeance” against Hamas, are laying the groundwork for civilian deaths in the Gaza Strip.

    Here’s what he told ABC radio a few moments ago:

    Their approach is to claim that Israel is always the victim and to demonise Palestinians.

    Israel has conducted, already, five wars on Gaza which took the lives of more than 5000 people.

    The prime minister of Israel said, clearly, that the population of Gaza should leave Gaza so that [Israel] can crush Hamas. That’s what he said. Where should people go? To the sea? Where should they go after they’ve been disposed from their homeland in Palestine?

    Asked if he condemned the tactics that have been used by Hamas, Barghouti said:

    I condemn any violation of the rights of human beings anywhere. I am against the killing of any Palestinian or any Israeli.

    But the picture that is presented to you is misleading because, here, the vast majority of the victims in this conflict [over time] are on the Palestinian side.
     
    #43     Oct 8, 2023
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So anyone who is 39 according to this reasoning... even if they have been out of the IDF for two decades for so... is still a legitimate military target. Let me say that this is piss poor reasoning trying to claim that nearly every person is a military target. It does not hold water.
     
    #44     Oct 8, 2023
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Maybe Hamas should stop using Palestinian civilians has human shields.


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    #45     Oct 8, 2023
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    nice try; let's look at the tweet you were criticizing in question:


    Not even in GWB mental gymnastics, could her statement ever be misconstrued as "supportive of Hamas". You saw the Al-Aqsa attack as justified because you hate Muslims, just say it.
     
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    #46     Oct 8, 2023
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    You are not out if you are in the reserves. It's a militarised society.

    Hamas told itself there were a bunch of legit targets with their pants down (many off their heads on pills/acid and weed) in easy reach so they reached.

    But, what they thought they were achieving is the question (besides some hostages and not from the festival as they had to get back into Gaza). There are 200,000 active duty IDF. More reserves.
     
    #47     Oct 8, 2023
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The terrorist group, Hamas, is already bragging about the hostages they took and their plans for them.

    Israeli Hostages Held In Gaza Strip Include Families, Children, and Elderly
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-hamas-in-gaza-strip-include-families-elderly

    The hostages include citizens of other nations including Mexico, Germany and other countries. I will note that many do not hold Israeli (dual) citizenship.

    Two Mexican citizens believed to have been taken hostage by Hamas: Mexico
    https://www.reuters.com/world/two-m...een-taken-hostage-by-hamas-mexico-2023-10-08/
     
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    #48     Oct 8, 2023
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Yes, that what's going to stop Israel raising Gaza to the ground.

    Actions have rationales, hostages are shields. The festival massacre was something else.
     
    #49     Oct 8, 2023
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As noted... The hostages include citizens of other nations including Mexico, Germany and other countries. I will note that many of the hostages do not hold Israeli (dual) citizenship.

    Two Mexican citizens believed to have been taken hostage by Hamas: Mexico
    https://www.reuters.com/world/two-m...een-taken-hostage-by-hamas-mexico-2023-10-08/

    Of course, the hostages lead to a complicated situation. Do you go in and just kill the Hamas members and don't bargain for hostage exchange (as per the typical Israeli government policy) which will likely lead to their deaths.

    Hostages complicate plan for 'mighty vengeance' against Hamas
    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...an-mighty-vengeance-against-hamas-2023-10-08/

    The shooting of people running away across a field at the music festival was simply murder and the Hamas terrorists used them for target practice.
     
    #50     Oct 8, 2023