Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Indeed.

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    Remind you of anyone?
     
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    #461     Oct 13, 2023
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  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    No.... lets annihilate those that behead children.

    Weren't you the one posting all the bible stuff? Mocking Catholicism because it didn't fit your narrative? So how does this fit in to all that? I thought Evangelical types were 100% pro-Israel. Changing your tune mid-stream---> one has to wonder----> what exactly is your objective here?

    And this:

    You should go back and read your own posts in the religion forum.

    But whatever... America's not perfect bro.... but we're still the best thing out there across dozens and dozens of metrics. Soooo....
    ----> Case closed.
     
    #462     Oct 13, 2023
  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Case temporarily reopened.... I read a little more.

    "A few missile silo's" ?!!!!
    Lol. :D

    Trust me homes... we'll take out more than a few... and in taking them out... we'll reconstitute every one of them into slag. (You might wanna look up the definition of that word.... as it applies to concrete.)
    That said... somehow I seriously doubt Hezbollah is fielding anything close to a "silo".
     
    #463     Oct 13, 2023
  4. M.W.

    M.W.

    Shows you understand nothing about Christianity. I am against all sorts of killings and murder. But I am not naive and blame only one side, this conflict would have never lasted this long if only one side was guilty.

    BTW, nobody beheaded children. You still live in your bubble, called lies and fakes.

     
    #464     Oct 14, 2023
  5. M.W.

    M.W.

    And actually no, your country is deep down on mediocre rankings when it comes to measuring a country's overall wellbeing and happiness. But hey, your Wallstreet is the largest and biggest, be proud of that. In terms of living life I can name you a dozen countries that I would always prefer to life in than the US. Of course that does not matter to a poor immigrant from a shit hole country. Perhaps that's why you get so few Japanese, Norwegian, German, Swiss, Finnish, French, Belgian, Danish, Swedish, Italian (recent), Canadian, New Zealand, and Australian immigrants. Did I forget Iceland, Spain, Portugal, Luxemburg, well basically entire Northern and Central and Western Europe and Japan.

     
    #465     Oct 14, 2023
  6. M.W.

    M.W.

    Right, like how you took apart Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Japan,...You are a clown on this topic. Just give it up, you are ridiculing yourself. But it's ok, I understand, you never travelled across state borders, can't fault you for your lack of insight of other cultures and economies.

     
    #466     Oct 14, 2023
  7. themickey

    themickey

    Ohhhhhh lookee......



    With the world on high alert, Biden’s beheading gaffe was baffling and irresponsible
    By Farrah Tomazin October 14, 2023
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/biden-s-beheading-gaffe-20231014-p5ec7f.html

    America’s Consoler-in-Chief, addressing a roundtable of Jewish leaders at the White House in the midst of Hamas’ brutal attack on Israel.

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    US President Joe Biden speaks during a round table discussion with Jewish community leaders in WashingtonCREDIT:BLOOMBERG

    “I’ve been doing this a long time,” the political veteran of 50 years said, “and I never really thought that I would see or have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children.”

    Except he hadn’t.

    Indeed, not long after Biden left that meeting this week, a spokesman clarified that the president had not viewed any photos of decapitated babies at all, but had based his remarks on Israeli media reports and comments from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s spokesman.

    It was an astonishing thing to have to walk back – even for a president known for makinghis fair share of gaffes– given the shocking events unfolding in the Middle East and the growing global tensions surrounding the crisis.

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    Burnt out cars at the site of the Supernova Music Festival where 260 Israelis were massacred on October 7.CREDIT:GETTY

    As US president and leader of the free world, Biden has access to the highest levels of intelligence briefings from agencies and allies, so to falsely claim he had seen evidence of such atrocities was baffling and irresponsible.

    It also underscored the dilemma that the White House now faces: how does it respond to this war without escalating it?

    America is already on high alert: US authorities are monitoring domestic threats; security has been ramped up at Jewish centres and synagogues; and protests between opposing groups have erupted on city streets and university campuses across the country.

    Meanwhile, Palestinian Americans have reported being frustrated by the rush to support Israel, and by the largely one-sided way the conflict has been covered by the US media.

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    Palestinian supporters marched in protest of the Israel-Hamas war in New York on October 13.CREDIT:AP

    Even Fox News, the Murdoch-owned right-wing cable network that regularly pounces on any missteps Biden makes, made little mention of his roundtable remarks, which were initially reported by the media, including this masthead, until they were clarified.

    In any war, separating fact from fiction and propaganda can be extremely difficult, particularly when there’s so much false or misleading information online, which adds to the confusion – and anger – about what is actually happening on the ground.

    One viral video, for instance, which purported to show a Hamas fighter shooting down an Israeli helicopter was actually taken from a video game calledArma 3.

    Fake accounts have surfaced on X (formerly known as Twitter), claiming to come from theJerusalem Postnewspaper and even a non-existent BBC reporter called “Verona Mark”, to spread false information.

    And then there’s the usual political point-scoring: former president Donald Trump, for example, put up a post falsely claiming “American taxpayer dollars helped fund these attacks, which many reports are saying came from the Biden administration”.

    Biden’s claims of “terrorists beheading children” stemmed from gruesome reports of atrocities committed at Kfar Aza kibbutz.


    Nicole Zedek, a journalist with Israel’s i24 News, originally reported that up to 40 babies had been killed in the attack and some had been decapitated, according to Israeli soldiers with whom she had spoken. Hamas branded the allegations “false”.

    Asked about the president’s remarks, National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said the White House took “very, very seriously the need to be as factual and certainly as truthful as we can possibly be”.

    But he also said the public should not lose sight of the bigger picture: “The utter depravity and the barbaric nature with which these terrorists murdered and butchered innocent Israeli civilians.”

    ”And that further underscores why – and this is what the President’s specific point was – that we’ve got to stay with Israel,” Kirby added. “We’ve got to continue to make sure they have the support that they need.“

    The administration’s full-throated backing of Israel is hardly surprising given the parallels to the 9/11 terrorist attack and the fact that Americans are among those killed and believed to be taken hostage by Hamas.

    But Biden’s relationship with Israel also dates back decades. He first visited the country as a young senator in 1973 and often tells the story of an hour-long gathering with then-prime minister Golda Meir, which he has described as “one of the most consequential meetings” he’s ever had.

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    People run from the World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001.CREDIT:AP/SUZANNE PLUNKETT

    And as a president whose life has been steeped in tragedy– his first wife Neilia and their 15-month-old daughter Naomi were killed in a car crash in 1972; his eldest son Beau died of cancer four decades later – the horrors of the Holocaust also resonate.

    In fact, one of Biden’s most powerful moments during the roundtable meeting with Jewish leaders last week was when he recounted how he would bring each of his children to the Dachau concentration camp in Germany after they turned 14.

    “I wanted them to see!” he yelled, suddenly pounding the lectern in front of him as he shook with emotion. Some of the leaders in the room froze in response; others choked back tears.

    The Israel-Hamas war now presents one of the most complicated geopolitical situations of Biden’s presidency.

    It undercuts his campaign fornormalisation between Israel and Saudi Arabia, adds another unwanted war to his list of pre-election challenges, and deepens divisions in an already fiercely fractured America.

    With so much at stake, adding to the disinformation and misinformation surrounding the conflict doesn’t help.
     
    #467     Oct 14, 2023
  8. themickey

    themickey

    Lying for Israel, it just can't be....
     
    #468     Oct 14, 2023
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67108364

    BBC Verify has confirmed women and young children were killed when a strike hit their vehicles as they headed away from northern Gaza

    Analysis of images from the scene show some of those who died were aged between two and five
     
    #469     Oct 14, 2023
  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    #470     Oct 14, 2023