Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. Good1

    Good1

    You don't have to believe in the supposed authorship of the "Torah" to support Israel s side of this. There are plenty atheists agnostics and cultural Christians (in name only) who support Israel.

    Names that come to mind are Bill Maher, Douglas Murray, Sam Harris and Senator Fetterman.

    All you have to accomplish is to realize that some brands of faith are worse than others, even though all faith (according to my own philosophy) is S.I.N.

    You can generally predict how people will behave based on their faith, or how much exposure they have to the roots of their faith.

    Israelis will produce more dates out of that land than the faith-full of the Hoothi/Hamas hordes and their brethren in the most vile of all faith based bs.

    Whatever genesis accounts for ancient Israeli occupation of that land, it will never be worse than the genesis of Islam and it's subsequent invasion of the entire world at the point of a sword.

    As far as caretakers of the land, you'll never find better caretakers than the Jews, who will preserve historical sites better than anyone, and will promote more tourism than anyone.

    Islam is like a gang that tags it's territory with graffiti. Yes, I'm saying that the two mosques that stand in Jerusalem are equivalent to gang tagged graffiti which vandalizes the prior historical landmarks in the region. And why? Because Mohammed got high on mushrooms and dreamed he took off from the heights of Mt Zion (Jerusalem) on a donkey that took him to seven levels of heaven.

    So no, they don't respect the land, certainly not enough to grow dates.

    Right now, Israel needs secure borders, and so, must deal with the threat coming from Gaza and Judaea and Samaria. They will need to move out about 80% of the residents of Gaza (which belongs to Israel), and Judaea/Samaria (which also belongs to Israel).

    That is, predictably, based on the nature of the faith inheritance of a caravan raiding murderer, and how they can be expected to behave, only about 20% could be expected to actually agree to assimilate peacefully within Israeli majority government.

     
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    #3981     Nov 3, 2024
  2. Coin Flip

    Coin Flip

    Many Christians don't even know whether the book of Matthew is in the Old Testament or New Testament, so you should stop asking Christians.

    If you study the Bible itself, the book says the entire land belongs to the Jews, extending east all the way to the Euphrates river (which includes Syria and Iraq).

    However, what both the Christian and the Jew fail to realize is, the Bible did not say the Jews are to take action to reclaim this land.

    Rather, the Bible says they have to wait until the second coming of Lord Jesus Christ to deliver the land to them.

    So that means we should try and live in peace as much as possible (except for exercising self-defense) and patiently wait for God to deliver the land to the Jews.
     
    #3982     Nov 3, 2024
  3. themickey

    themickey

    Netanyahu, a very bad decision-maker and a very good campaigner
    Regarding the Israeli prime minister’s reaction to the leaks, Menachem Klein, professor of political science at Bar-Ilan University, has told Al Jazeera that Netanyahu’s strategy “is to distance himself from this affair”.

    He has downplayed the leaks as “not a big deal”, explaining away that the assistant who leaked the information wasn’t under his wing or in his inner circle – rather, he was under the chief of staff.

    “He’s a very bad decision-maker, a bad prime minister, but he’s a very good political campaigner and political survivor,” Klein said.

    “He does many tricks to stay in power and his main means through which he shapes political opinion is the media. He was politically brought up in the US and he’s a Trump-style leader; the media is his main forum to shape public opinion.”
     
    #3983     Nov 4, 2024
  4. themickey

    themickey

    You guys been waiting +2000 years fur b'jezus to arrive back in 'is chariot, how much more time and patience does ya want?
    Dream on! :)
     
    #3984     Nov 4, 2024
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Newtestament said G-suss return was 'imminent'.
    2000 fricken years later and the believers still hold hope.

    Nothing will change your minds about G-suss, in 10,000 years christians will still be waiting, praying, believing.
    Gawd.
     
    #3985     Nov 4, 2024
  6. themickey

    themickey

    Sounds like a stategy Bibi learnt from 'crustians', use the media which is as we know FOS but does a great job of hoodwinking sheep.
     
    #3986     Nov 4, 2024
  7. themickey

    themickey

    U.S. gives Israel a ‘fail’ grade on improving aid to Gaza so far
    Nov 4, 2024
    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration is stepping up criticism of Israel for not doing enough to improve humanitarian conditions in Gaza as a 30-day deadline looms for Israeli officials to meet certain requirements or risk potential restrictions on military assistance.

    The administration also is condemning recent violence against Palestinians in the West Bank by extremist Jewish settlers and says those responsible must be held to account.

    State Department spokesman Matthew Miller on Monday gave Israel a “fail” grade in terms of meeting the conditions for an improvement in aid deliveries to Gaza laid out in a letter last month to senior Israeli officials by Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.

    He said there were still roughly nine days until the deadline expires, but that limited progress thus far has been insufficient.

    “As of today, the situation has not significantly turned around,” Miller told reporters. “We have seen an increase in some measurements. But if you look at the stipulated recommendations in the letter, those have not been met.”

    A day before the election, the Biden administration called out its close ally, with support for Israel a key issue for many voters and the humanitarian crisis for Palestinians also a factor for many in the race. Former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris have been competing for Muslim and Arab American voters and Jewish voters in battleground states like Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    Among other conditions, Austin and Blinken’s letter from mid-October said that Israel must allow in a minimum of 350 trucks a day carrying desperately needed food and other supplies for Palestinians besieged by more than a year of war between Israel and Hamas. By the end of October, an average of just 71 trucks a day were entering Gaza, according to the latest U.N. figures.

    “The results are not good enough today,” Miller said. “They certainly do not have a pass. … They have failed to implement all the things that that we recommended. Now, that said, we are not at the end of the 30-day period.”

    He would not say when asked what the U.S. would do when the deadline comes up next week, just that “we will follow the law.”

    Similarly, Austin has been reinforcing “how important it is to ensure that humanitarian assistance can flow and flow faster into Gaza” in calls with his Israeli counterpart, Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder, Pentagon press secretary, told reporters Monday.

    The head of UNICEF, the U.N. agency for children, said over the weekend that “the entire Palestinian population in North Gaza, especially children, is at imminent risk of dying from disease, famine, and the ongoing bombardments.”

    Miller also said the U.S. is looking into a decision by the Israeli government to end an agreement facilitating the work of the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees, known as UNRWA, which is the main aid provider in Gaza.

    It followed the passage of Israeli laws last week to sever ties with UNRWA, a move that Blinken and Austin opposed in their letter.

    The Israeli Foreign Ministry said in a statement Monday that it has notified the U.N. of the cancellation of an agreement dating back to 1967 that facilitates UNRWA’s work. It said UNRWA “is part of the problem in the Gaza Strip and not part of the solution.”

    Israel alleges that UNRWA has been infiltrated by Hamas, which the agency denies and says it takes measures to ensure its neutrality.

    U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres reiterated that UNRWA is essential and there is no alternative to its work in the Palestinian territories, spokesman Stephane Dujarric said.

    At the same time, Miller said the U.S. is “deeply concerned” by a recent escalation in attacks by Israeli settlers on Palestinians in the West Bank, including several cars being torched overnight just a few kilometers (miles) away from the Palestinian Authority’s headquarters and attacks on Palestinians harvesting olives, their livestock and other property.

    “These violent actions cause intense human suffering for Palestinians and they threaten Israel’s security,” Miller said. “It is critical that the government of Israel deter extremist settler violence and take measures to protect all communities from harm in accordance with its international obligations.”

    He noted that the U.S. has since the beginning of the year imposed sanctions against Israeli groups and people implicated in violence against Palestinian civilians and warned of more to come.

    AP reporters Ellen Knickmeyer and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington and Edith M. Lederer at the United Nations contributed.
     
    #3987     Nov 5, 2024
  8. themickey

    themickey

    Meanwhile Israel is allowed to continue to bomb the shit out of Gaza and Lebanon.

    Here’s what happened today
    • Israeli soldiers “continue to bomb and destroy” Kamal Adwan Hospital in war-battered northern Gaza, the territory’s Health Ministry says, suggesting that the plan seems to be to “execute” medical workers who refused to evacuate.
    • At least 16 people have been killed and 90 others wounded in Lebanon, according to the Ministry of Public Health’s latest figures, bringing the death toll after more than a year of war between Hezbollah and Israel to 3,002.
    • Israel’s air force says fighter jets attacked the “intelligence headquarters” of Hezbollah in Syria, while Syria’s SANA news agency reported that “civilian areas” were hit south of the capital Damascus.
    • Israel’s Defense Minister Yoav Gallant approved sending an additional 7,000 draft notices to members of the country’s ultra-Orthodox Jewish community, saying the military needs more soldiers.
    • The UN agency supporting Palestinian refugees, UNRWA, said Israel’s ban on its operations would lead to the “collapse” of humanitarian work in besieged Gaza as UN lawyers review the move.
     
    #3988     Nov 5, 2024
  9. themickey

    themickey

    What a joke!
    US created the mess!
     
    #3989     Nov 5, 2024
  10. themickey

    themickey

    Should Kamala lose the election, it won't be because of how better Trump is, but all about how bad Biden is.
     
    #3990     Nov 5, 2024