Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    Six months into the war in Gaza, Israel has no exit strategy and no real plan for the future
    Analysis by Ivana Kottasová, CNN Sat April 6, 2024
    CNN —

    The war in Gaza has been raging for six months and the patience of Israel’s allies is running out. As the death toll in the enclave continues to climb, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Israel has no viable plan for how to end the war or what comes next.

    The determination to continue pursuing Hamas in Gaza despite the horrific humanitarian consequences is leaving Israel increasingly isolated on the global stage, with its government facing pressure from all sides......
     
    #2311     Apr 7, 2024
  2. themickey

    themickey

    Very simple, there never was any intention nor will there be of a plan which is fair to Palestine.
    There only is one (undisclosed) plan, that is displace the Palestinians and take the land.
    Making life miserable for Palestinians is the ultimate goal so the Palestinians can bugger off elsewhere and not be a problem to Jews who believe the land belongs to them due to Torah nonsense.

    Land of Israel
    The Land of Israel (Hebrew: אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל, Modern: ʾEreṣ Yīsraʾel, Tiberian: ʾEreṣ Yīsrāʾēl) is the traditional Jewish name for an area of the Southern Levant. Related biblical, religious and historical English terms include the Land of Canaan, the Promised Land, the Holy Land, and Palestine. The definitions of the limits of this territory vary between passages in the Hebrew Bible, with specific mentions in Genesis 15, Exodus 23, Numbers 34 and Ezekiel 47. Nine times elsewhere in the Bible, the settled land is referred as "from Dan to Beersheba", and three times it is referred as "from the entrance of Hamath unto the brook of Egypt" (1 Kings 8:65, 1 Chronicles 13:5 and 2 Chronicles 7:8).

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    The Valley of Elah, near Adullam
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    A verdant hill near Moshav Tzafririm
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    Sunrise over the Elah Valley
    These biblical limits for the land differ from the borders of established historical Israelite and later Jewish kingdoms, including the United Kingdom of Israel, the two kingdoms of Israel (Samaria) and Judah, the Hasmonean Kingdom, and the Herodian kingdom. At their heights, these realms ruled lands with similar but not identical boundaries.

    Jewish religious belief defines the land as where Jewish religious law prevailed and excludes territory where it was not applied.[1] It holds that the area is a God-given inheritance of the Jewish people based on the Torah, particularly the books of Genesis, Exodus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, as well as Joshua and the later Prophets.[2] According to the Book of Genesis, the land was first promised by God to Abram's descendants; the text is explicit that this is a covenant between God and Abram for his descendants.[3] Abram's name was later changed to Abraham, with the promise refined to pass through his son Isaac and to the Israelites, descendants of Jacob, Abraham's grandson. This belief is not shared by most adherents of replacement theology (or supersessionism), who hold the view that the Old Testament prophecies were superseded by the coming of Jesus,[4] a view often repudiated by Christian Zionists as a theological error.[5] Evangelical Zionists variously claim that Israel has title to the land by divine right,[6] or by a theological, historical and moral grounding of attachment to the land unique to Jews (James Parkes).[7] The idea that ancient religious texts can be warrant or divine right for a modern claim has often been challenged,[8][9] and Israeli courts have rejected land claims based on religious motivations.[10]
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  3. themickey

    themickey

    Cultish beliefs in the truth of the Torah and Bible is the root of the Gaza problem.
    Israelites just want to make life miserable to their neighbours on purpose.
    Hence you get Hamas and everyone else (Iran for example) reacting negatively to Israel.
    Then Israel cry out its a victim, and sucker US to jewish religious lies, runs over and wants to help them by supplying bombs, so you get a clusterfuck.

    Biden with his staunch jewish religious beliefs is the absolute worst person for this job.
     
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    #2313     Apr 7, 2024
  4. themickey

    themickey

    China Providing Geospatial Intelligence to Russia, US Warns
    (Bloomberg)

    • Blinken briefed European allies on scope of Chinese support
    • China said to have stepped up help for Russian war on Ukraine
    Xi Jinping talks with Vladimir Putin via videolink, in 2022.
    Source: Xinhua News Agency/Getty Images
    By Alberto Nardelli and Jennifer Jacobs April 6, 2024

    The US is warning allies that China has stepped up its support for Russia, including by providing geospatial intelligence, to help Moscow in its war against Ukraine.
    Amid signs of continued military integration between the two nations, China has provided Russia with satellite imagery for military purposes, as well as microelectronics and machine tools for tanks, according to people familiar with the matter.
    China’s support also includes optics, propellants to be used in missiles and increased space cooperation, one of the people said.
    President Joe Biden raised concerns with Xi Jinping during their call this week about China’s support for the Russian defense industrial base, including machine tools, optics, nitrocellulose, microelectronics, and turbojet engines, White House National Security Council spokesperson Adrienne Watson said.
    China’s foreign ministry didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment during a holiday weekend.

    Beijing has sought to portray itself as mostly neutral in the face of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, now into its third year, yet it’s established a deep alliance with Moscow as part of what Xi and Vladimir Putin termed a “no limits” friendship ahead of the 2022 Winter Olympic Games in Beijing.
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    The US is advising its allies that US has stepped up its support for Israel, including by providing geospatial intelligence, to help Israel in its war against Palestinian civilians.
    Amid signs of continued military integration between the two nations, US has provided Israel with satellite imagery for military purposes, as well as microelectronics and machine tools for tanks, according to people familiar with the matter.
    US support also includes optics, propellants to be used in missiles and increased space cooperation, one of the people said.


    US has sought to portray itself as mostly a neutral peacemaker in the face of Israels full-scale invasion of Gaza, now into its first year, yet it’s established a deep alliance with Israel as US supplies unlimited bombs and aircraft as part of what Biden and Netanyahu termed a “no limits” friendship.
     
    #2314     Apr 7, 2024
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Joe Biden's Approval Rating Has Catastrophically Fallen Over Israel
    Published Apr 06, 2024

    Joe Biden Braces for Gaza Backlash in Wisconsin
    By Brendan Cole Senior News Reporter
    https://www.newsweek.com/israel-joe-biden-gaza-polling-approval-rating-fall-1886966

    President Joe Biden was quick to show solidarity with Israel after the October 7 Hamas attacks, but six months on, American voters have become increasingly unhappy with his handling of the Gaza crisis, according to polling for Newsweek.

    In the aftermath of the attacks by militants in which over 1,200 were killed and 253 were taken hostage, Biden stood next to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and said that his country is "not alone."

    However, three surveys conducted exclusively for Newsweek by Redfield & Wilton Strategies since then have shown that U.S. voters' disapproval of Biden's actions in the crisis has sharpened intensely since December.

    One Middle East and U.S. foreign policy expert told Newsweek that the Israel issue could be "very difficult for him to explain to his base" on the presidential campaign trail. Another American political analyst, however, said it would not make much difference for Biden come November, with other issues at the forefront of voters' minds.

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    Newsweek illustration. Joe Biden’s approval rating has catastrophically fallen over his Israel policy. The war in Gaza has been raging for six months. Photo Illustration by Newsweek/Getty Images

    Biden's Positive Start
    The first survey of 1,500 eligible U.S. voters from across the country was conducted on October 29, 11 days after Biden's full-throated pledge of support in Tel Aviv.

    The poll, with a 2.53 percent margin of error, showed the overall approval rating of U.S. voters for the president's handling of the situation in Israel was plus 2 percentage points.

    This was the difference between 37 percent of those who approved of his actions, compared with 35 percent who disapproved.

    A poll of the same number of voters on December 8, with the same margin of error, found that Biden's approval rating on Israel had increased to 6 percent—with 39 percent approving, compared with 33 percent who disapproved.

    But much has happened since then. Israel's bombardment of Gaza following the Hamas attacks has killed at least 33,000 Palestinians, according to the Hamas-run health authorities in the territory, cited by the Associated Press on April 5. Gaza's entire population faces hunger, according to the U.N.

    U.S. officials haven't blocked military aid to Israel. The Washington Post reported last week that the U.S. had authorized the transfer of 1,800 MK-84 2,000-pound bombs and other weaponry to the country.

    In his State of the Union speech, Biden announced a plan to construct a port on the coast of Gaza to ease the flow of aid into the territory, and the U.S. and its allies have started to air drop aid by parachute into Gaza.

    Newsweek has contacted the White House for comment.

    Disapproval Grows
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    This policy had the support of more than half of respondents (51 percent) in Redfield & Wilton Strategies' latest polling for Newsweek, which was conducted on March 23 to 24 with 1,500 voters, again with a 2.53 percent margin of error.

    Just under a quarter (23 percent) "strongly" backed the plan, which was only opposed by 16 percent, but the policy hasn't increased voters' positive opinion of Biden's handling of the Gaza crisis.

    Nearly half (44 percent) of American voters said U.S. efforts to get humanitarian aid into the Hamas-controlled territory hadn't changed their opinion of how Biden was handling the crisis.

    Overall, last month's survey saw Biden's approval rating on Israel slump from plus 6 in December to –9 points. This was a result of 39 percent disapproving and only 30 percent approving. Among them, more than a fifth (22 percent) strongly disapproved.

    Meanwhile, when asked about Biden's role in the humanitarian situation in Gaza, 22 percent said that the president was significantly responsible, 23 percent said "fairly" responsible and 21 percent said he was "somewhat responsible."

    Among all voters, 24 percent said Hamas was most to blame for the territory's humanitarian situation.

    Gen Z and Millennials Voice Anger
    More tellingly, nearly a quarter (23 percent) of Generation Z voters (born between 1997 and 2012) held Biden most responsible for the humanitarian situation. This is much higher than the 8 percent of that generation who blamed Hamas, while 12 percent said Netanyahu and 10 percent said the IDF were the most responsible.

    Over a fifth (22 percent) of millennials (those born between 1981 and 1996) said Biden was most to blame, compared with only 15 percent who blamed Hamas. This was also higher than the 13 percent and 14 percent who held as mostly responsible, Netanyahu and the IDF, respectively.

    "The problem is most voters, particularly among the among the youth and among minorities...are very divided on the current conflict right now," Osamah F. Khalil, a U.S. foreign relations and Middle East expert, told Newsweek. "What they see this as at a minimum an issue of complicity—that the Biden administration is complicit in what's now been described as a genocide.

    "He appears to be avoiding college campuses. We haven't seen much of Kamala Harris, the vice president, either," he said.

    The U.S. has blocked different ceasefire resolutions at the Security Council, but abstained from the most recent one on March 25. Israel has argued the resolution encourages Hamas to use international pressure to achieve a ceasefire without freeing the captives.

    Meanwhile, Biden has stepped up his criticism of Israel's actions, which included saying Netanyahu "must pay more attention to the innocent lives being lost."

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    Pro-Palestinian demonstrators call for a ceasefire outside the White House on April 2, 2024, in Washington, D.C. Joe Biden has faced slumping approval ratings over his handling of the Israel-Hamas war, according to polling for...Kent Nishimura/Getty Images

    'Public Hand-Wringing'
    On Thursday, a White House readout of a call with Netanyahu following drone strikes that killed seven people working for the World Central Kitchen (WCK) said continued U.S. support depends on Israel's immediate new steps in Gaza, and that the deaths of the humanitarian workers was "unacceptable."

    But even if Biden's patience with Netanyahu is reportedly running out, it doesn't appear to be playing well with American voters.

    "The public hand-wringing versus the actual demonstrative support for Netanyahu's government, politically, diplomatically, militarily is going to be difficult for Biden," said Khalil, history professor at Syracuse University's Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs.

    "It would be very difficult for him to explain that to the base and energize the base to come out in November," he added.

    "It's about this the rhetoric versus reality and the belief that I think among many of the Democratic Party base that that the Biden administration is absolutely hand in glove with what the Israelis are doing and what Netanyahu is doing."

    In a sign that Democrats may be worried about how the Israel issue might impact the presidential election, especially after more than 100,000 voters at the Michigan primary pledged "uncommitted" to protest Biden's policies toward Israel in a state that he won by 154,000 votes in 2020.

    But Thomas Gift, founding director of the Centre on U.S. Politics at University College London, said that while Israel poses challenges for Biden, especially where a few thousand votes in swing states could tip the outcome, "it's not an especially salient issue" for voters.

    "That pales in comparison to issues like immigration, inflation and the economy in general, all of which command double-digit percentages of voter attention," he told Newsweek. "When Americans go to the ballot box in November, their main concern will be kitchen-table issues affecting their lives at home."
     
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    Its called; 'lip service', another name is called; 'tickling the public's ears', yet another name is called; 'bullshit'.
    Meanwhile Biden continues to supply heavy weapons in order to kill Palestinians wearing turbans and sandals and riding bicycles.
    Most of Hamas are not even in Gaza, they're elsewhere now, but that doesn't halt the raining down of US bunker buster bombs into Gaza by Israel.
     
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    themickey

    No it won't, it'll be about treachery of American politicians whom they once thought could be trusted to do the right thing.
    Hopefully also it will be about kicking the zionists out of American decision making, so that Americans rule America, not Israel.

    You'll never get rid of forever wars when zionists with their crackpot idiology are running the place.
    Unfortunately fundamentalist right wing evangelicals are just as bad.
     
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    They should pay more attention to their home schooling and to the pedos among their flock.


    MAGA Christian Nationalists Find Out Trump's Kids Are Jewish
     
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