Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    It's not me, it's the world:

     
    #1821     Feb 18, 2024
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    A top Egyptian official basically says it is unacceptable for Hamas to exist and demands an investigation of how Hamas took over Gaza.

    As noted many times earlier, Egypt is not lifting a finger to help the Palestinians in Gaza and are unwilling to allow them to enter Egypt already has a problem with Islamic terrorism with a group allied with Hamas. It views allowing Palestinians to enter Egypt from Gaza will simply import more terrorism.

    Egypt is now building an additional wall and buffer zone to make sure the Palestinian terrorists stay out. If anyone thinks that Egypt is going to support the Palestinians in Gaza in any meaning way in terms of using Egyptian money to send supplies or allowing meaningful numbers of Palestinians in Gaza to seek temporary refuge in Sinai then they are delusional. Nearly every other country in the region which has experienced terror and revolts when they allowed the entry of Palestinians. Egypt has no plans to make the same mistake.

    Egyptian FM blasts Hamas, declares it 'outside of Palestinian consensus'
    Shoukry also said "we must give an account of how Hamas gained power in the Gaza Strip and why it received financial support."
    https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-787491
     
    #1822     Feb 18, 2024
  3. zdreg

    zdreg

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    President Isaac Herzog reveals an antisemitic book found in Gaza at the Munich Security Conference, February 17,
     
    #1823     Feb 18, 2024
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #1824     Feb 18, 2024
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    President Herzog reveals antisemitic book discovered in Gaza home, analyzes hostage talks
    Herzog revealed a book that IDF soldiers found in a home in the Alfarkan region of Gaza called "The End of the Jews" written by Hamas co-founder and former PA foreign minister Mahmoud al-Zahar.
    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-787468
     
    #1825     Feb 18, 2024
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I initially read that as "found in the Munich Security Conference", my bad. Yes, Hamas having anti-Semitic texts in Gaza makes much more sense. They would just burn them in FL.

    A bit of trivia: Did you know that the term "antisemitism" was coined by a jew in defense of the "semitic" people of the middle east (notably Arabs)? In his defense, he was writing to a historian of Semitic studies that spoused some eugenics rhetoric calling semitics (arabs) inferior. The Nazis then borrowed the term and the ideas of the racist Historian and applied it to the other Semitic people (Jews).

    While conflict between semitic peoples is as old as time itself, rampant antisemitism was not the norm by the time zionist settlers in British Palestine arrived. Their unchecked arrival and future expulsion of Arabs creating enough friction and animus w/Arab neighbors that Arabs then adopted antisemitic extremism.

    Antisemitism being a European concept, was adopted and translated to Arabic for consumption in the region. That's not to say that Islamic texts don't contain antisemitic writings/mandates, but Islam in the region had reached a more secular society than many modern Islamic societies today (imagine Turkey v. Afghanistan).
     
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    #1826     Feb 18, 2024
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Another one for you....I do feel more optimistic than he does for Israel in the long term

     
    #1827     Feb 18, 2024
  8. themickey

    themickey

    I think what we are seeing; The world hates bullies.
    We saw this with China recently, they become powerful, arrogant, then bullies, the Wolf Warrior saga should come to mind, Australia, Phillipines, Taiwan...

    Then we have Putin....

    Now we have Netanyahu, who, imo, succesfully baited Hamas and Hamas were stupid by taking on Israel.

    Then we have Biden who is backing Bibi, there's going to be a backlash at the polls because he's seen to be in bed with bullies.

    Israel Jews however forever sensitive to criticism, are happy to invoke the term antisemetism because they like to portray themselves as the victim.

    Israel reminds me of a big tough guy who's pumped up with steroids and who finds a thief trying to steal his car, unfortunately for the thief he has his wife and kids too in the car, and they all get severely beaten.
     
    #1828     Feb 18, 2024
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  9. themickey

    themickey

    Netanyahu and Israel in Decline and May Take Biden Down With the Them
    by Melvin Goodman February 19, 2024
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    Photograph Source: U.S. Embassy Tel Aviv – CC BY 2.0

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a dead man walking. He needs to continue the war in Gaza in order to maintain his position as prime minister. When the war ends, Netanyahu’s record-setting years of rule in Israel will also end.

    Along with Netanyahu, the Israeli nation is in decline legally, morally, and economically. The actions of the International Court of Justice reflect the legal and moral decline. Foreign investment is down, and Moody’s Investors Service (Moody’s) has downgraded Israel’s foreign currency and local currency ratings. One outstanding question is whether Netanyahu’s fall and Israel’s decline will lead to the political defeat of President Joe Biden as well in November’s election.

    Even before the large-scale Israeli ground invasion of Gaza on October 27th, Netanyahu had transformed from a risk-averse conservative to a right-wing reactionary. A decade ago, it was obvious that Israel’s image as a progressive and largely secular nation had become badly tarnished with Netanyahu at the helm. Last year, Netanyahu had to bring into the government the worst kind of right-wing reactionaries, led by Bazalel Smotrich (Finance Minister) and Itamar Ben-Gvir (Minister of National Security). The country was moving to the right, and Netanyahu moved to the right along with it.

    In its first 75 years of existence, Israel had no fascists such as Smotrich or Ben-Gvir in its government. Both men were disciples of the late Meir Kahane, whose fascist party was banned in Israel in 1994. Kahane’s party, Kach, was banned by the Israeli cabinet under the 1948 anti-terrrorism laws following its statements of support for Baruch Goldstein who massacred 29 Palestinians at the Cave of the Patriarchs. Kahane himself was banned from Israeli politics in 1988, but in the last Israeli election six extremists of the Kahane variety won seats in the Israeli Knesset.

    The transformation of Israel over the past ten-years means that Israeli leaders and their followers have become less interested in Israel as a democratic state and far more interested in Israel as a Jewish state. The government has no interest in protecting the civil rights of the two million Arab citizens within Israel’s borders, who make up around 20 percent of Israel’s population. Netanyahu also has no interest in respecting Israel’s Supreme Court and its essential role of judicial review. His campaign to neuter the Supreme Court led to the huge protest campaign that was interrupted by the Hamas attack on October 7th. As far back as 2016, a Pew public opinion survey determined that 80 percent of Jewish Israelis favored “preferential treatment” for Jews, indicating the acceptance of discrimination against Arabs.

    It seems bizarre for U.S. leaders to continue to emphasize the importance of a two-state solution, when Netanyahu and his cohort have stressed that there will be no negotiations toward such a solution. For the past ten years, again before the Gaza War, Netanyahu has been moving to make permanent the occupation of East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The Trump administration supported these steps, moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem and supporting Israel’s policies of occupation. Trump and Netanyahu’s recklessness and moral perversity are quite similar. Now, the Israeli government is in the process of making Gaza totally uninhabitable. The Biden administration is complicit in the excesses and war crimes of the Israeli military campaign.

    There is no justification or explanation for the horrors that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have brought to Gaza, which include the deaths of as many as 12,000 Palestinian children. The fact that Israeli Jews, who have been united around “never again” in the wake of the Holocaust, are responsible for this tragedy is particularly ironic. I grew up in a Jewish ghetto in Baltimore as a Zionist who believed that the IDF was a progressive force playing a major role in transforming Jewish immigrants from the world into a national force. I traveled to Israel for the first time as a teenager, and met Jews from America and Europe who had volunteered to work in Kibbutzim where they joined with the warrior-pioneers who had made their way to Israel in the wake of the Holocaust.

    There is no indication that the Israeli assault against the Palestinians will diminish in intensity, let alone pause, and the weaker security environment will ultimately create greater security risks for Israel itself. The potential of renewed war on the northern border with Lebanon is certainly possible, particularly in view of the terrible strategic decisions Israel made in 1982 and 2006 regarding Lebanon. A weaker security environment will create greater social and political risks as Netanyahu becomes even more beholden to the right-wing zealots in his coalition. At the same time, Israelis may become more aggressive in order to keep Netanyahu in power.

    It is ironic that President Biden has put his reelection chances at risk on behalf of Netanyahu who has no respect for the president or the United States. Unlike other Israeli prime ministers, Netanyahu has displayed no interest in trying to satisfy or even address U.S. demands or requests, and Israel in general appears to believe that it can go it alone without any international support. President Barack Obama gifted Israel with the greatest military aid package in U.S. history in 2016, but he was regularly vilified by the Israeli press and received a lower favorability rating in Israel than almost anywhere else in the world.

    Biden has shown deep concern about the fate of the hostages, particularly the American hostages, but very little concern about the 2 million Palestinians in Gaza. Netanyahu has never been concerned with the five million Palestinians on the West Bank and in Gaza, and rarely demonstrates concern with the hostages. His goal is to make Gaza uninhabitable. The Biden administration doesn’t seem to understand that, which explains the feckless missions of Secretary of State Antony Blinken and CIA director William Burns, and the more feckless conversations Biden keeps having with Netanyahu.

    I know what Israel gains from the United States in terms of billions of dollars worth of lethal weaponry and political cover. I wonder what the United States gains from Israel.

    Melvin A. Goodman is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy and a professor of government at Johns Hopkins University. A former CIA analyst, Goodman is the author of Failure of Intelligence: The Decline and Fall of the CIA and National Insecurity: The Cost of American Militarism. and A Whistleblower at the CIA. His most recent books are “American Carnage: The Wars of Donald Trump” (Opus Publishing, 2019) and “Containing the National Security State” (Opus Publishing, 2021). Goodman is the national security columnist for counterpunch.org.
     
    #1829     Feb 19, 2024
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  10. themickey

    themickey

    What US gains from Israel is five eights of fuck all and a book on bullshit.
     
    #1830     Feb 19, 2024