Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    And who created the shitshow in the middle east? Israeli Settlers stealing land.
     
    #1711     Feb 11, 2024
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    some levity:

     
    #1712     Feb 11, 2024
  3. themickey

    themickey

    Biden Nearing a ‘Breach’ with Netanyahu Over Gaza War: Report
    The president is considering harsher public criticism of Israel's assault
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ring-breach-netanyahu-gaza-report-1234966269/

    President Joe Biden is “warming” to the idea of being more publicly critical of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as his country’s assault on Gaza continues unabated, The Washington Post reported.

    The paper reported that Biden is becoming increasingly frustrated with Netanyahu, citing interviews with multiple sources familiar with internal White House discussions. Per the Post, the president and his aides are “no longer viewing Netanyahu as a productive partner who can be influenced even in private.”
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    Doh! Wake up sleepy joe!

    Meanwhile further down in this same news clipping.....

    .......Even if Biden sharpens his rhetoric around the war, it will make little substantive difference as long as the U.S. is funding Israel’s military efforts, Ben Rhodes, former president Barack Obama’s deputy national security adviser, told the paper. Last week, the Senate advanced a $95 billion aid package that included $35 billion in aid for Israel. It will now head to the House.

    “So long as you are supporting Netanyahu’s military operation in Gaza without condition, it makes absolutely no difference how much you turn the dial in your comments. Fundamentally, you have to make a decision not to give Bibi a blank check of support,”
     
    #1713     Feb 11, 2024
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #1714     Feb 12, 2024
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    The head of UNRWA admits that Hamas and UNRWA are one and the same.

    '“Our employees are part of the social fabric in Gaza and its ecosystem. And as part of the social fabric in Gaza, you also have Hamas,” alluding to the organizations' connections to terror group Hamas.'


    Hamas, UNRWA both embedded in fabric of Gaza, org head admits
    Israel says that UNRWA has not gone far enough to root out Hamas within the organization and was unwilling to clean up the issue systematicall
    https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-786447

    In an interview with The New York Times on Friday, Philippe Lazzarini, UNRWA’s commissioner general, said, “Our employees are part of the social fabric in Gaza and its ecosystem. And as part of the social fabric in Gaza, you also have Hamas,” alluding to the organizations' connections to terror group Hamas.

    This interview occurred against the backdrop of the exposure of UNRWA’s Hamas ties after the October 7 massacre and the Hamas tunnels revealed underneath the UNRWA headquarters in Gaza.

    The Times revealed that ten years ago when a senior UN legal officer in Gaza began investigating whether several of its employees were members of Hamas, he began receiving death threats, culminating in a live grenade sent to his office. This officer was evacuated from the region. Several of these instances occurred and remained unreported.

    Although UNRWA says that it has taken reports that its employees were also members of Hamas seriously, Israel says that UNRWA has not gone far enough to root out Hamas in the organization and was unwilling to clean up the issue systematically, the Times reported.

    UNRWA officials say that those who were revealed to have ties to Hamas were fired or left the agency. However, this issue was not dealt with systematically but rather on a case-by-case basis and in private.

    Israel argues that UNRWA is completely infiltrated by Hamas, saying that one in ten UNRWA employees in Gaza are Hamas members. Furthermore, although there is no shaft that leads to the tunnel from UNRWA facilities, the IDF argues that the tunnel was close enough to the surface that the UNRWA workers should have been able to hear its construction. The IDF also pointed out wires that led to the underground compound from a room inside UNRWA offices.

    Lazzarini said that he did not have the “expertise” to “monitor what is underneath the city.”

    Matthias Schmale, the former UNRWA director in Gaza from 2017 to 2021, said that there was a “working relationship” with Hamas, although there were significant “tensions and disagreements” with the terror organization.

    Aid experts do not believe that UNRWA could have ever completely rid itself of Hamas because of the nature of working in an authoritarian climate, the Times reported. UNRWA highlighted its little communication with Hamas members and its leadership, saying that they only meet once a year.

    However, Major Nir Dinar argued, “You have to be very naive to think that the UNRWA personnel did not know what was happening under their feet,” not least because the construction and maintenance of the tunnel would have required aboveground assistance. Maj. Dinar is a spokesman for the IDF military.

    UNRWA's media continues as usual
    In spite of these breaking revelations, UNRWA’s media is continuing as usual. On X, formerly Twitter, the agency has been calling to prevent a military operation in Rafah and announced IDF firing on UNRWA facilities and personnel. The agency tweeted on Sunday that a food shipment was stuck at the Israeli port due to Israeli restrictions, causing hunger and starvation. On LinkedIn, the agency posted a job vacancy in Amman.

    The top replies to these posts all mention UNRWA’s collaboration with Hamas. Below the LinkedIn job listing, one commenter asked, “Is experience in building tunnels a mandatory requirement?” Several commenters expressed a similar sentiment. Below UNRWA’s post about blocked food shipments, a commenter wrote, “Haven’t you stolen enough aid this week?” Several of the comments under the post said the same.

    Israeli leaders want to replace UNRWA with a different agency, although those in opposition argue that disbanding UNRWA at this point in the war would worsen the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, arguing that the agency provides much-needed aid to the region and is irreplaceable.

    “I think that it is time that the international community and the UN itself understand that UNRWA’s mission has to end. UNRWA is self-perpetuating. It is self-perpetuating also in its desire to keep alive the Palestinian refugee issue. And we need to get other UN agencies and other aid agencies replacing UNRWA if we’re going to solve the problem of Gaza as we intend to. There are other agencies in the UN… in the world. They have to replace UNRWA,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said.

    Philippe Lazzarini and UN officials continue to argue that defunding and disbanding UNRWA is a mistake and will only worsen the humanitarian crisis existing in the Strip.
     
    #1715     Feb 12, 2024
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As expected Hamas has moved the hostages to Rafah. This is a good start to getting the hostages back by using force. The time for negotiations with terrorists is over.

    Israel-Gaza updates: IDF says 2 hostages rescued from Gaza
    https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...hamas-war-proposed-hostage-deal/?id=106938132

    Two male hostages were rescued from Gaza, the IDF said in a briefing early Monday morning local time. The hostages are both alive and in "good medical condition," the IDF said in a release.

    The two hostages -- Fernando Simon Marman, 60, and Louis Har, 70 -- are back in Israel and were brought to Sheba Tel Hashomer hospital, the IDF said. They were both kidnapped by Hamas from Kibbutz Nir Yitzhak on Oct. 7.

    The special operation to rescue the two hostages from Rafah in Gaza started around 1 a.m. local time, IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Richard Hecht told reporters during a briefing early Monday morning.

    "The two hostages were rescued from the second floor of a residential building in Rafah," Hecht said. The forces breached the building "with a charge," Hecht said.

    Hecht added that air cover was provided, and there was also fire to the surrounding buildings.
     
    #1716     Feb 12, 2024
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    it's good that they're safe and sound, and back w/their families.

    As a side note, a momentary cease fire got 80 hostages released, many thousands of dead children ago.
     
    #1717     Feb 12, 2024
  8. That was so nice of Hamas to release hostages they took while murdering civilians...If the world can condemn Israels military actions why is Israel blamed for Hamas not freeing hostages...I can turn on the TV and find a rally to save Palestinians from genocide but only Israel is repeatedly asking to bring them home...

    You can hate Israels government and military but dont let it cloud your judgment on the 1200 civilians killed and 250 taken hostage. It is not a contest to root for the side with more dead. Many in the world who feel that you can hate on Bibi all you want are turned off by the world that on Oct 8th suddenly tried to justify the massacre before Israel took one step.

    My compassion for the citizens of Gaza soured the minute the collective world indicated those civilians on Oct 7th had it coming. Sounds like the same justification people used for Americans dying on 9/11 that was so offensive to people. It is not whataboutism it is that a child's murder is world crumbling no matter what.

    I dont know any Palestinians directly but anyone with a heart can see the suffering they are and have been going through. I do know people who had families on the kibbutzes and my university posted about 2 classmates who one was kidnapped and one was killed and when I read their stories they said the world forgot about them and stopped caring.

    Israel was brought before the ICJ but Hamas is seen as patriots in the Middle East ..freedom fighters. So Palestinian children dont deserve to die for the actions of their political and military leaders but Israeli citizens do and apparently so do Jews everywhere?

    Biden is a murderer...what is the leader of Hamas who actually did something? Jews and Arabs been killing each other since before the Christian era and made worse by post WW2 colonialism.

    A Palestinian friend has challenged me as to why I remained quiet on social media defending Palestinians....as though posting makes you so important. I asked her why was she so quiet on Oct 8th...

    Apathy overall is still more peaceful than selected outrage as though one is a saint for taking the easy road to march.
     
    #1718     Feb 12, 2024
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  9. zdreg

    zdreg

    "Surrender and there will be no more deaths."
    That is my final contribution to this thread.
     
    #1719     Feb 12, 2024
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    Lol
     
    #1720     Feb 12, 2024