The proposal to allow Hamas's leadership to leave Gaza is getting flushed out with details. As noted above this was a change in position by Israel but still achieves the goal of eliminating Hamas as a militant and governing entity in Gaza. Hamas's Yahya Sinwar set for 'Arafat-style' exile from Gaza - report According to the report, Israeli officials have floated the idea of allowing Sinwar to "leave like [Yasser] Arafat left Lebanon." https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-785834 Israel will allow the exile of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar from the Gaza Strip in exchange for the release of all remaining 136 hostages, NBC reported on Thursday, citing six Israeli officials and senior advisers. According to the report, Israeli officials have floated the idea of allowing Sinwar to "leave like [Yasser] Arafat left Lebanon." Arafat fled the Lebanese capital of Beirut in 1982 after an agreement between the US and the European government guaranteed his safe passage to Tunisia by boat. Now, an Israeli source told NBC, Sinwar could be set to make a similar exit from the Gaza Strip. "We will allow it to happen as long as all of the hostages are released," NBC cited a senior adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as saying. Israel leaning toward exile of terror leaders from Gaza Earlier this week, it was reported in Israeli media that Jerusalem and Washington have recently been discussing a plan for the exile of senior Hamas members as part of a wider ceasefire and hostage deal under discussion. Officials in Netanyahu's inner circle stated in recent closed-door discussions that this is a very favorable option for Israel, as "the implication of the exile is the end of Hamas leadership." There were reports in the past of a new proposal by mediators that included the exile of Hamas leaders from the Gaza Strip to a third country. According to the report, in exchange for this, Hamas would release all the Israeli captives it holds, but it would be done in stages until the withdrawal of IDF troops from Gaza.
In Gaza, anger grows at Hamas along with fury at Israel NPR - http://tinyurl.com/3cupjsj5 RAFAH, Gaza Strip — "Hamas ... has destroyed us," says Adnan Abdelaal, who has fled for safety four times in the past four months of war. First, he escaped Israeli bombing on his Gaza City neighborhood. Then he sheltered in a United Nations school until it was hit 40 days later. Then he fled to central Gaza, then farther south to Khan Younis, then even farther south to Rafah, escaping each time the Israeli military got closer. He is in the same clothes he has worn for the past month, living out of a backpack and searching every night for a new place to sleep. "I don't know if they thought about it, and what would happen to us," Abdelaal says about Hamas' decision to attack Israel on Oct. 7. "We didn't receive any warning to leave." Hamas has not tolerated dissent among Gazans in the 17 years it has ruled the tiny territory, choked by an Israeli-led blockade. But dissent against the Islamist militant group is now widespread and out in the open, voiced alongside Gazans' fury with Israel. "Enough Israel, enough Hamas," Abdelaal says. Hamas' surprise Oct. 7 assault on southern Israel was the deadliest attack in Israeli history, killing 1,200 people, according to Israeli officials. It prompted Israel's deadliest war on Palestinians, killing more than 27,000 people in Gaza, according to Gaza health officials. Entire areas of Gaza have been reduced to wastelands. Most of the population has fled their homes, many living in flimsy tents in the rainy winter. Cheers rang out on the streets of Rafah this week after Hamas said it responded in a "positive spirit" to a proposal for a cease-fire. But Hamas still drew criticism from some Gazans, for submitting a host of demands for shaping Gaza's reconstruction and future. "We are not happy with their reply at all," says Jamal, who did not want to use his full name to avoid retribution from Hamas. He lost his home to Israeli bombing in Gaza City and is sheltering in Rafah. "Hamas is focusing mostly on remaining on the chair, ruling Gaza mainly. Because they don't care about people in Gaza, they don't care about their suffering." Why Gazans have protested Several demonstrations have taken place in recent weeks in Gaza, expressing frustration with Hamas over the war. At a demonstration in the city of Khan Younis, Palestinian protesters singled out the leaders of Israel and Hamas. "Netanyahu and Sinwar, enough war and enough destruction," they chanted, in a protest captured on film and shared on social media. "The people demand a cease-fire." Hamas' popularity has soared in the other Palestinian territory, the West Bank, since the war began. In past Israel-Hamas wars, Gazans under bombardment also rallied around Hamas for standing up to years of Israeli oppression. But this war is different. It's the deadliest conflict Palestinians have faced in their history, coupled with Israel's large-scale destruction of homes and infrastructure across Gaza. About 85% of the population, according to the U.N., have now fled their homes and are sheltering in tents, schools and overcrowded buildings. Many in Gaza liken it to the foundational Arab-Israeli war of 1948 and the mass Palestinian displacement that came with the establishment of Israel, what Palestinians call the Nakba, Arabic for catastrophe. Some Hamas supporters say the group miscalculated Hamas still has supporters in Gaza. A recent poll found 57% of Gazans support Hamas' decision to attack on Oct. 7. Most of the Palestinians surveyed said they had not seen the videos of Hamas' attacks on Israelis that day and didn't think Hamas committed atrocities. But even supporters of Hamas launching the attack say the group misjudged the consequences. Abdelsalam Al-Ghoul, a 30-year-old Palestinian who fled his home in Gaza, called Hamas' attack an "honorable act" against Israeli oppression, but says Hamas "greatly misjudged the situation," because Iran and Hezbollah, the powerful Iran-backed militia in Lebanon, didn't join the attack, diminishing its results. He criticizes Hamas for preparing its fighters for the war, without preparing its civilians. "The resistance says it's ready for rounds of combat for months and years," Al-Ghoul says. "So are we, but provide us with our daily bread, so we resist together." It takes hours to wait in bread lines at bakeries, which are short on flour, fuel and cooking gas. "[Hamas] should give consideration to their people," says Suheir Safi, amid the wafting smoke of a mud oven, where Palestinians baked bread near a tent. "Every shepherd is responsible for his flock." On Facebook, many Gazans have been alluding to their frustration with Hamas' leader Yahya Sinwar. "A captain takes the ship to where the people want. A pirate takes the ship to where he wants," Sami Allhelou wrote. "An entire generation in Gaza never saw a tank in their lives. The crazy man brought the tanks to the center of the refugee camp because of stupidity," Mohanad Mehrez wrote. Will Hamas survive, and will it change? The public opinion poll found 51% of Gazans believe Hamas will survive the war and govern Gaza, despite Israel's goal to crush it. Israel says it has destroyed 17 out of Hamas' 24 battalions in Gaza. But Hamas still maintains a fighting presence on the battlefield, and has even reasserted itself as a governing force, paying partial salaries to civil servants and sending police officers to patrol in areas where Israeli troops have withdrawn. Sinwar, the Hamas leader whom Israel has vowed to kill, remains alive, in hiding, leading negotiations with Israel for a hostage-prisoner exchange and cease-fire. "Hamas, they consider that they are the winner in this war," says Tholfikar Swairjo, a pharmacist in Gaza who was previously a leader in the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a leftist Palestinian political faction. "They didn't lose the war because ... until now, Hamas is Hamas." The "bigger war," Swairjo says, is what Hamas will face after the fighting is over: the colossal task of rebuilding a decimated Gaza. Hamas cannot do that without international cooperation. Hamas is designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. and European Union. It has been isolated since it won 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections in Gaza and took the territory by force in 2007, driving out the Western-backed Palestinian Authority from the territory. Since then, Israel has led a blockade on Gaza, restricting trade and travel. This is the fifth war Hamas and Israel have fought since Hamas took over Gaza. The U.S., Qatar and Egypt are now involved in negotiations over what the future Palestinian leadership would look like when the war is over. To move forward, Swairjo thinks Hamas will have to change from an outlier opposition force to a participant in the internationally recognized Palestinian movement, the Palestine Liberation Organization, or PLO, which is committed to the goal of an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel. "Hamas, they are smart enough to understand what's happening and what is coming in the future. Because of that, they will change," Swairjo says. "People will obligate them to change ... they will not accept to have another war, another catastrophe. People will not accept to continue this forever." That includes Swairjo himself. He has lost his main pharmacy, his livelihood, his house and his father's house to Israeli bombings in the last four months. "I lost everything," he says. "I want Hamas to do something for me."
while I'm sure plenty are pissed at Hamas inside Gaza, this is both the result of an Israeli tactic of war (collective punishment of innocent civilians to the point of revolting against Hamas) and likely boosted exaggerations by the IDF & western mouthpieces to have IR come across as righteous having caused the disaster. General Gadi Eizenkot made clear that, what Israel had done to Dahiya, it would do to every village or town that dared to resist. As he put it, what happened to Dahiya would “happen in every village from which Israel is fired on”. “We will apply disproportionate force and cause immense damage and destruction,” he threatened. As far as he was concerned, “harming the population was the only means of restraining” resistance group Hezbollah. Eizenkot is today a minister in Netanyahu’s government. Israel has consistently used this “Dahiya doctrine” in every attack on Gaza since its 2009 offensive. The United Nations (UN)-commissioned Goldstone report concluded, “The Israeli government has sought to portray its operations as essentially a response to rocket attacks in the exercise of its right to self-defence.” But the reports’ authors “consider the plan to have been directed, at least in part, at a different target—the people of Gaza as a whole”. Gadi Eisenkot spelt out the strategy for Israel’s 2006 war on Lebanon. The general made “harming the population” a central tenet of Israel’s wars. His plan was given the name the “Dahiya Doctrine”, after the poor southern neighbourhoods of Beirut with their majority Shia Muslim population. It was here that the Hezbollah Lebanese resistance organisation was based. The doctrine is simple—kill and maim as many people as possible with little or no loss of life to Israeli soldiers. Once the people are terrorised, they would act as a restraint on the resistance, Eisenkot argued. The mass bombardment of the Dahiya neighbourhoods would similarly “happen in every village from which shots were fired in the direction of Israel,” he said. https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...-disproportionate-strategy-military-gaza-idf/ A U.N.-commissioned report regarding that conflict, which saw the deaths of more than 1,400 Palestinians and Israelis, determined that Israel’s campaign was “a deliberately disproportionate attack designed to punish, humiliate and terrorize a civilian population, radically diminish its local economic capacity both to work and to provide for itself, and to force upon it an ever increasing sense of dependency and vulnerability.” “Israeli military correspondents and security analysts repeatedly reported that the Dahiya doctrine was Israel’s strategy throughout the war in Gaza this past summer,” observed Palestinian American scholar Rashid Khalidi in the fall of 2014, after another Israeli campaign left more than 1,460 civilians dead, including almost 500 children. “Let us be frank: this is actually less of a strategic doctrine than it is an explicit outline of collective punishment and probable war crimes.” He added: “Not surprisingly, one found little mention of the Dahiya doctrine whether in statements by U.S. politicians, or in the reporting of the war by most of the mainstream American media, which dwelt on the description of Israel’s actions as ‘self-defense.’”
No country is going to step up to be on the ground in Gaza to help the IDF destroy the Hamas tunnels. This is a job that Israel needs to finish on their own. Israel could request a global alliance to finish destroying Hamas's Gaza tunnels - exclusive Getting a global alliance to sign on to the idea of finishing the job, top sources say, could delegate achieving the goal beyond the point at which Israel can work on the issue itself. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-785938
Nobody in Hamas seems to be able to contact the terrorist leader. Yahya Sinwar lost contact with Hamas leaders 'weeks ago' - report "I assess beyond a doubt that he is in Khan Yunis - along with some of the remaining Hamas leadership," the officer said. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-785949 Hamas's leader in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, lost contact with fellow terror leaders "weeks ago," KAN News reported on Thursday, and was not involved in Hamas's response to the hostage deal and ceasefire proposal. Israeli forces are "peeling back" Hamas infrastructure in Khan Yunis, more than two months after entering the Gaza Strip's main southern city, and believe the terror group's Gaza chief is hiding there, a senior military officer told Reuters on Thursday. However, multiple sources have stressed to the Jerusalem Post that Sinwar is hiding in the southern city of Rafah. Progress in Khan Yunis has prompted Israel to describe Rafah, further to the south and abutting Gaza's border with Egypt, as next in line for a ground sweep by troops and tanks. The majority of Gaza's 2.3 million people are now sheltering in the area since being displaced from elsewhere in four months of fighting, afraid they are next in the line of fire. The situation in Rafah watched by Cairo The situation in Rafah - after Khan Yunis, the biggest southern city - is also being watched by Cairo, which has ruled out allowing any refugee influx across the fence into its Sinai peninsula. A senior Israeli military officer said Khan Yunis operations to destroy Hamas and retrieve any hostages who might be held there would continue "whether it will take two hours, or two days, or two weeks or two months - or even more." Israeli troops have killed 2,000 gunmen, wounded 4,000, and captured "hundreds" more, the officer told Reuters on condition of anonymity. That had largely demolished Hamas' Khan Yunis Brigade, whose pre-war strength was five battalions, he said. This could not be independently verified. Hamas has seldom published its deployments or losses. "The Khan Yunis Brigade was the most powerful that Hamas had, with a very dominant commander," the officer said. "We are peeling it back, layer by layer." Attacks by Palestinian gunmen were increasingly scattershot, suggesting a loss of command and control, the officer said. Hamas says its ambushes continue to inflict Israeli casualties. Khan Yunis is the hometown of Hamas' Gaza leader Yahya Sinwar, mastermind of the Oct. 7 killing and kidnapping spree in southern Israel that sparked the war. 'No doubt' that Yahya Sinwar is in Khan Yunis "I assess beyond a doubt that he is in Khan Yunis - along with some of the remaining Hamas leadership," the officer said. The military has published images of what is said were Hamas tunnels uncovered in Khan Yunis, with white-tiled living spaces and barred cells assumed to have held hostages. The officer side-stepped a question on whether the tunnels were extensive enough to allow senior Hamas figures to slip out of Khan Yunis and evade Israel's dragnet. "You can move quite a few kilometers (underground)," he said without elaborating. The military says 228 soldiers have been killed and 1,314 wounded in Gaza Strip ground operations that began on Oct 20, figures that did not specify casualties from Khan Yunis.
So here we have it, israel a narcassistic country who believe the universe should worship at their feet and America who believes them because of a book written by the deluded narcassists. Its just one big fuck up, never gonna be resolved, its impossible to resolve with a world full of cultist worshippers kneeling at an idol. It doesn't matter about politics anymore, it's the blind leading the blind who believe they've seen the light. No one can fix this fiasco, it will go on until they fucking just blow the whole world to fucking smitheens - because of a stupid fucking bs book.
If we want to see a country strongly supporting Israel then look no further than Australia. A leading provider of weapons to Israel while the Labor Party and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese effectively swear fealty to the Jewish state. Of course, Anthony Albanese has declared a Palestinian state can only exist if it is completely demilitarized. He also reminds everyone that U.S. action in the Middle East is proportionate. Of course Anthony Albanese has declared his strong support for Israel in this conflict many times while outlining how the ICJ case is absurd. While also regularly condemning the slaughter of innocent people by Hamas. If you want to find a narcissistic country that is all in on worshiping Israel then look no further than your backyard, eh.
I agree, so today is Sabbath and 'sin'agogue day then church for me on Sunday to worship baby jesus hanging on a cross.