Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    Why?
    Because its Israel and US will support Israel no matter how criminal they are.
    Why?
    Because US is a Christian country and believe the Jewish religion.
     
    #1361     Jan 13, 2024
  2. themickey

    themickey

    INDIA
    Red Sea attacks: Why India is strategically silent on Iran role
    January 13, 2024, 9:24 PM IST Teesta Prakash
    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...y-india-is-strategically-silent-on-iran-role/

    As 2023 drew to a close, India deployed three warships in the Arabian Sea after a drone hit a merchant vessel, MC Chem Pluto, off its western coast last week. A second vessel MV Sai Baba, an Indian-flagged crude oil tanker, was also hit by a one-way attack drone.

    The US has claimed that the two drones were “fired from Iran” although Tehran has dismissed this accusation as baseless. India, however, has maintained that the perpetrators of the attacks remain unknown. Defence minister Rajnath Singh stated they would “find those who executed the recent attacks on merchant navy ships even from the depths of the seas and take strict action against them”.

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    New world: US and UK have carried out strikes against Iran-backed Houthis. However, India has to act in its own economic and strategic interests

    The attacks on the two vessels have highlighted the importance of India’s oil security as the Red Sea is one of the two routes which secure India’s oil supply, the other being the Persian Gulf. Houthi attacks in the Red Sea and now these drone strikes in the Persian Gulf have highlighted the vulnerability of the world’s busiest shipping lanes. Maersk, the world’s biggest shipping company, has halted all container shipments through the Red Sea until further notice.

    Defence minister Singh has also highlighted that India is a regional power in the Indian Ocean and is a net security provider in the region and, thus, it must ensure that the maritime trade routes remain protected.

    Despite its stated aims to secure sea lanes of trade in the region, India did not join Operation Prosperity Guardian, a US-led maritime security initiative to address security challenges in the Red Sea and ensure freedom of navigation.There are two reasons for this. One, India has always been wary of joining any coalition, let alone a US-led one, given its long standing non-aligned foreign policy stance. More pointedly, US-India relations, which had been blossoming since the epochal US-India Civil Nuclear Agreement finalised in 2008 to the US-India Initiative on Critical and Emerging Technology (iCet) in 2022, have faced some complications after US Department of Justice charged an Indian citizen in November 2023 with plotting to assassinate a US citizen on US soil.

    Since then, President Biden has declined an invitation to visit India for its Republic Day celebrations and the Quad summit 2024, which is also looking to be in trouble for the second year in running.

    The second reason is India’s own relations with Iran, and the lessons it has learnt from following the US policy towards Iran in the past. India abided by US sanctions, winding down on oil imports from Iran after the latter pulled out from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in 2018. Before the ban, India imported 23.5 million tonnes of Iranian crude oil, almost one-tenth of its total requirement in 2018-9, that too on lucrative terms such as 60-day credit and other discounts.

    As India scaled back on Iranian crude oil, China — India’s strategic competitor, unfriendly neighbour and world’s largest crude importer — became Iran’s top customer. Between 2020 and 2023, Iran’s oil shipments to China more than tripled despite US sanctions. While this lesson ensured that India did not follow the West on its sanctions on Russia post the invasion of Ukraine, tensions in the Middle East are now jeopardising India’s strategic and economic interests, especially with Iran. This is one of the reasons foreign minister S Jaishankar is visiting Iran on Monday.

    India has been scaling up its investments in Iran. The Chabahar port is a key point of interest where, after years of arbitration, India is looking to sign a multi-year deal to develop a terminal in the geo-strategically important port which provides access to Central Asia.

    The interest is not one way. Iran too is keen to revitalise its energy relations with India, especially as India becomes the third largest importer, and consumer of crude oil with a growing economy and demand for oil in 2024. OPEC cuts on oil for the first quarter of 2024 have also pushed Indian refiners to further diversify their oil supply which creates an incentive for New Delhi and Tehran to push for strong ties.

    Rising prices on crude oil have a substantive impact on India’s domestic politics — a surge in crude oil prices raises the cost of domestic fuel, which would impact those largely in the lower-income bracket. This, in turn, could affect the BJP’s prospects in the 2024 Lok Sabha elections. Thus, India not agreeing to US claims of an Iranian hand in attacks is deeply related to its economic and strategic interests, not only in the region but also on the domestic front. Moreover, maintaining its own foreign policy position on this matter highlights India’s commitment to strategic autonomy. It’s a good reminder to those who see the world through a bipolar lens that there is now a multipolar world order emerging, one that will be based more on interests than values.
     
    #1362     Jan 13, 2024
  3. themickey

    themickey

    More political bluster.
     
    #1363     Jan 13, 2024
  4. themickey

    themickey

    Were India to come under attack, watch them come to crying.
    India is part of QUAD, a joint military arrangement of India, Australia, US, Japan.
    India imo is a lame duck in this arrangement.
     
    #1364     Jan 13, 2024
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Seems to be a lot of drama within the Israeli government. They are fighting over if aides are allowed in the room for meetings.

    Defense Minister Gallant storms out of cabinet meeting: 'Stop disturbing me!'
    The heated situation in the cabinet comes as tensions between Netanyahu and Gallant have continued to grow during the war.
    https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-782085#google_vignette
     
    #1365     Jan 14, 2024
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    There's a huge dysfunctional problem here, and both US & Israel are digging a deeper and deeper hole for themselves.
    US is the senior partner in this conflict. Biggest country, greatest wealth, biggest firepower.
    Israel are 2nd biggest, bigger in firepower and technology than Hamas, Saudi, Palestine, Iran...
    US should lead a good example. Israel should lead by good example.

    But what we have is both countries are out of control.

    US policy is: "We support Israel no matter what".
    Israel policy is "We will achieve what we want, the total erradication of Hamas, and the secondry aim is to depower Iran' nuclear".

    Unfortunately for US..... "We support Israel no matter what" is a flawed game plan.
    US will get caught up in forever wars with such a policy as Israel are a contentious nation driven by the same flaws as their enemies - intolerant fundamentalist religion!
     
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    #1366     Jan 14, 2024
  7. themickey

    themickey

    So Biden a Catholic proudly claims to the world he's a Zionist!
    You can see the problems can't you?

    Biden is leading US into a deeper abyss with his beliefs and should he get voted out the alternatve is Trump the dictator with Hitler leanings.

    None of the future looks pretty.
     
    #1367     Jan 14, 2024
  8. themickey

    themickey

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    Jerusalem Post Israel-Hamas War
    Gazans to IDF: ‘Hamas leaders hiding abroad, kill them’
    By JERUSALEM POST STAFF Published: JANUARY 14, 2024
    Two conversations of Gaza residents with officers of IDF Unit 504. January 14, 2024. (Credit: IDF SPOKESPERSON'S UNIT)
    “Tell your leaders: Hamas people are abroad, outside of Palestine, screw them outside of Palestine, kill them,” one Gazan said.

    In recorded phone calls with IDF officers, residents of Gaza railed against Hamas and its leadership. The recordings were published by the IDF on Sunday.

    The conversations took place between residents of the besieged Strip and officers of Unit 504 in the Intelligence Division.

    “Tell your leaders: Hamas people are abroad, outside of Palestine, screw them outside of Palestine, kill them,” one Gazan said. “I am telling you in the name of our nation. I am sitting alone, and I'm screwed. Everything's destroyed. They're all abroad, sitting around in hotels. F**k them up. Curse their fathers. Sitting around in hotel rooms. “

    Hamas are "dogs"
    Another Gazan referred to Hamas as “dogs” and said that Allah would curse them.
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    Palestinians inspect the site of Israeli strikes on a house in Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip, October 23, 2023 (credit: REUTERS/IBRAHEEM ABU MUSTAFA)

    “Listen, listen to what the people around me are saying, may Allah protect us from you, Hamas,” the Gazan said. “Allah will curse them, Allah will curse them and those that voted for them…

    “They destroyed us, pushed us 100 years into the past. May Allah bring disaster upon them. Our people are their hostages. Those dogs are taking advantage of their power over us.”
     
    #1368     Jan 14, 2024
  9. themickey

    themickey

    Humanity and the rabbit holes which go around in circles.
    Allah will save them???
     
    #1369     Jan 14, 2024
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Post-war Gaza: 'The Palestinian Authority is not in a position to govern in Gaza’
    The Israeli government recently laid out its plans for the future governance of Gaza once its war with Hamas is over. The proposal released on January 4 made clear that the Islamist movement would no longer control the besieged Palestinian enclave. However, there was also little provision for the return of the Palestinian Authority.
    https://www.france24.com/en/middle-...hority-is-not-in-a-position-to-govern-in-gaza
     
    #1370     Jan 14, 2024