XP Pro or Windows 7 ?

Discussion in 'Trading Software' started by Wallace, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. You are going to run into that no matter what. The ONLY way around that is volume licensing where you point the OS/each instance of XP/7/8 to a server with the key.

    If not the normal OEM will break the license every time you make a change.

    EDIT: To be more specific, I haven't read the specific license agreements at all however the retail or OEM licenses of Windows are not intended to be hosted as virtual machines, they are all intended to reside on "bare metal" versus be a virtual instance.

    I have no idea if that applies to things like Fusion or Player or other things like Virtual box, etc. but in general, you'll keep blowing up the key every time you make a change because the OS/key/activation wasn't intended to be run as a VM.
     
    #51     Nov 14, 2012
  2. great replies and useful information

    I used W2K for years until I started to use NinjaTrader and had to change to XP
    my current computer was purchased in May 09

    a lot of people seem to think NEW = BETTER , and that's just not the case —
    'don't fix it if it ain't broke' comes to mind
    redesigns don't always offer improvement, going from MetaTrader 3 to 4 was an
    improvement, but MT5 was a failure in terms of it not being adopted by traders
    and Microsoft's certainly had its failures including OSs
    the other matter is does a new OS require new hardware/components or upgrading
    the programs used, which may also mean different but not better

    I've not found W2K or XP to be 'unreliable' in any way, no blue screens or crashes
    I want to work the way I want to, not have to learn to use a different way of operating
    the base method just because it's new, or being influenced by tablets or cell phones
    which seems to be the case with W8

    the only thing I've found to improve computer/operating speed after chip, ram, OS etc
    is installed is the hard drive. there can be a noticeable decrease in boot-up time, and
    programs do load more quickly with a fast hard drive, so presumeably that efficiency
    continues thruout all operations, except transmission time via the internet

    my trading is very basic - trading the ES or 6E, NT with 2 charts and MT4 , so my needs
    are probably less than other traders - and only 1 crt monitor. I don't use Start much as
    my most used programs have shortcuts on the desktop, as well as the Explorer folder

    XP 'not being supported after 2014' means nothing, SP4 was the last SP and there's
    not likely after all this time of being a stable OS that there's need for changes, so I'll
    be staying with XP since there seems to be no benefit in changing to a different OS
    but will follow what people have to say about their experience using W8
     
    #52     Nov 14, 2012
  3. What is wrong with Fusion 4 on a mac?

    fwiw I run fusion/windows 7 on my macintosh often and never have a problem. I am actually very happy and surprised with how well it works. It was only $ 55.:confused: :confused:
     
    #53     Nov 14, 2012
  4. Changing the CPU cores/displays/ram breaks the license keys. Full retail versions of OS just re-authorize. But (cheap) oem xp licenses are locked to hardware and only authorize once
     
    #54     Nov 14, 2012
  5. U must not be running McAfee ....

    Anyways, u r missing out at those specs, and not a serious trader/system developer. :confused:
     
    #55     Nov 15, 2012
  6. NoBias

    NoBias

    Thank you kindly for the information, Alt+F4 great tip

    Minimal googling and I located a command prompt to disable/re enable which didn't entail a 3rd party application

    Disable: bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy
    Re enable: bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard

    http://www.askvg.com/how-to-disable...s-vista-and-7-style-boot-loader-in-windows-8/

    Will test this weekend, going to spend some time with Win8 this weekend to familiarize myself with it first.
     
    #56     Nov 15, 2012
  7. mokwit

    mokwit

    WinstonTJ, can I pick you brains re your spcialist keyboard shortcut knowledge ?I really would like to know the keyboard shortcut that would allow me to locate the cursor in the data entry box of a program so I can enter a ticker in the data entry box of a chart program I have just alt tabbed to from another different chart program.

    Just want to sit back with a [maybe wireless] keyboard watching the tape and pulling up a chart of anything that catches my interest (Cannot buy keyboard with integrated mouse substitute in Thailand, and keyboard would be easiier - On key point I have noted - professional dealing systems are keyboard driven, retail are mostly mouse driven.)

    With your knowledge you could save me hours of reading through the MS shortcuts you posted :) , or just as important prevent me spending time looking for something that does not exist.
     
    #57     Nov 15, 2012
  8. W7 for now.
     
    #58     Nov 15, 2012
  9. As many here are using 8 now, I was wondering if anyone has tried using eSignal or IB on 8. eSignal said they are still testing it and CS at IB said they didn't know if TWS was compatible with 8.

    I'm buying new computers shortly and would rather go with 8 if these applications are compatible due to the slightly better hardware with the 8 models. If not yet compatible, I'll take the option for 8 on a 7 model.

    Many mention 8 being faster than 7. I take that to mean just the Windows applications. With either 7 or 8 it shouldn't make any difference regarding eSignal and other such applications, should it?

    Thank you very much for any information you may provide.
     
    #59     Nov 15, 2012
  10. ESignal and TWS under Java ARE WINDOWS APPLICATIONS.
    So they will run faster with a leaner operating system.
    You may have been thinking about WEB applications.
    Note: if Java 7 runs under Win8, then TWS will run fine.
     
    #60     Nov 15, 2012