Xmas Massacre followed by New Year Massacre?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by shortie, Dec 24, 2009.

SPY In 1 Month

  1. +7%

    11 vote(s)
    11.6%
  2. +5%

    13 vote(s)
    13.7%
  3. +3%

    12 vote(s)
    12.6%
  4. flat

    16 vote(s)
    16.8%
  5. -3%

    11 vote(s)
    11.6%
  6. -5%

    8 vote(s)
    8.4%
  7. -7%

    24 vote(s)
    25.3%
  1. No.Heat

    No.Heat

    This does not guarantee a breakout or continuation, I see fakeouts all the time.

    Technical analysis is severely overrated.

    No Heat
     
    #11     Dec 26, 2009
  2. The abundance of the headlines like this makes me wonder if a major dump is imminent.


    Stocks to wrap up 2009 on high note

    Ellis Mnyandu
    NEW YORK
    Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:57am EST
    REUTERS

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Wall Street is likely to make a strong showing in the final week of 2009 as the bulls gear up to toast the first annual advance for U.S. stocks in two years on hopes of more economic stability in 2010.
     
    #12     Dec 27, 2009
  3. So tired of people talking about the "imminent dump" right around the corner.


    There will not be any meaningful selling - PERIOD -- until there is a meaningful reason to do so.

    Here are the possibilities to start that process:

    1) Significant sovereign defaults (Greece, Eastern block, others?)

    2) Majorly disappointing earning reports (a few weeks off from now)

    3) Unexpected increase in interest rates (or poor Tbill sales)

    4) Black swan event?



    Point here is -- the shit is not going to start just going down for no reason....its not going to happen. Up or more consolidation from this point on until something significant happens news-wise.


    peas and queues, bitches
     
    #13     Dec 27, 2009
  4. Last year was as much a one-of-a-kind event as this year's liquidity orgy.
     
    #14     Dec 27, 2009
  5. Bootsie

    Bootsie

    I voted +7% and am clearly in the minority. There is nothing that says go down. Just take a look at AAPL, GS, IBM and GOOG. The Generals aren't going anywhere but up...
    Seriously, I'm as bear as they come, but of all the stocks that I own, the gainers and easy money has been to the long side; just keep moving the stops up and you'll do fine. And just because something happened a year ago, doesn't mean it'll happen again.... buy gold, oil and sell the USD. B out.
     
    #15     Dec 27, 2009
  6. S2007S

    S2007S



    You sound really desperate for this rally to stay intact for the next 34 years.

    That kind of thinking is the same exact thinking all bulls have at this moment.

    Not good.
     
    #16     Dec 27, 2009
  7. I'm not desperate for anything to continue. As soon as there is a reason to go short, I will. That reason is most likely either going to be some sort of sovereign default, or more likely a bad earnings season.

    However, the market isn't just going to organically start to decline for no good reason. That should be obvious to everyone at this point. Anyone who is not longish at this point is trading based on their own biases.
     
    #17     Dec 28, 2009
  8. Yup, this is how markets work - neatly arranged around holidays with straight trajectories. :cool:
     
    #18     Dec 28, 2009
  9. bl33p

    bl33p

    Banks selling billions in equity to pay back TARP, yet the market only rangebound, very bullish.

    Uncle Ben needs to push us beyond old highs to kill the bearish perception by a convincing amount, 10% or more.
     
    #19     Dec 28, 2009
  10. Mav88

    Mav88

    My model, fitted with 57 inputs in a neat set of highly tuned algos, says shorts get massacred, then longs get a sharp uppercut after new year, shorts get de-pantsed from 10-18 january, then longs get theirs balls taken off with surgical precision until 1 March. In march the longs and shorts lay down to together in intimate embrace. After that things get a little uncertain.
     
    #20     Dec 28, 2009