Right now, it's hard to tell how this Vegas "tip" controvery - headed to the Nevada Supreme Court - will eventually end up. New law urged to stop redistribution of tips By SEAN WHALEY, REVIEW-JOURNAL CAPITAL BUREAU, Mar. 28, 2007 CARSON CITY -- One of the original authors of a 1971 bill prohibiting Nevada employers from taking employee tips for their own benefit told a legislative panel on Tuesday that a new measure is needed to overcome court decisions that have weakened the law. Former state Sen. Don Mello of Sparks told the Assembly Judiciary Commitee that the middle class is shrinking because of the increased cost of living. Allowing employers to pool tips and redistribute them at their discretion to employees who did not earn them should be prohibited, he said. The big hotel-casinos bring tourists to Nevada, Mello said. But it is the hard-working men and women who serve those tourists well who ensure they will return, he said. The committee took testimony on Assembly Bill 357, sponsored by Assemblyman Bob Beers, R-Henderson, a measure aimed at a recent move by the Wynn Las Vegas hotel-casino to split the tokes earned by its dealers with casino supervisors. "A certain Nevada corporation believes that, regardless of the source of the tip, the monies belong to the corporation, and therefore those tips have been confiscated in spite of Nevada law," Beers said in prepared testimony. "The law, as written, is quite clear. Taking is taking." Kim Sinatra, general counsel for Wynn Resorts, disagreed that the 1971 law is not being followed. Employers cannot take tips, and that is not happening at the casino, she said. "The spirit of the law continues to protect the employees of the state of Nevada," Sinatra said. But if employers don't have the ability to set policy in tip pooling arrangements, those who need the tip income the most could suffer as a result because they don't have the leverage to ensure their participation, she said. No immediate action was taken on the bill. The hearing got testy after Judiciary Chairman Bernie Anderson, D-Sparks, repeatedly asked those testifying not to mention the Wynn Las Vegas property by name. The bill is addressing a statewide policy meant to apply to all such businesses, he said. Witnesses testifying for the bill were gaveled to silence when they mentioned the hotel-casino by name. When one witness mentioned Steve Wynn by name, Anderson said, "Thank you, you're finished." Anderson then abruptly called for a break in the hearing while Legislative police made their way into the hearing room, having been called there by another officer who had noticed the tension. Before the break, dealers working for Wynn Las Vegas and other casinos asked the committee to pass the bill, which clarifies that an employer cannot exercise control over tips given to employees. "We just clearly want our money given to us," said Marcus Hansel, a Wynn Las Vegas dealer. "When we do 100 percent of the job, we don't want 80 percent of the pay." Wynn Las Vegas dealer Meghan Smith said the only recourse the employees have is to clarify state law because of previous court interpretations. "If this bill is not passed, it will harm the Las Vegas economy," she said. "It will open the doors for all business owners to skim employees' tips." Mirage Hotel and Casino dealer Albert Maurice also supported the bill. "We have seen enough corporate greed and abuse in the past few years in this country, and this is another example," Maurice said. Andrew Pascal, president and chief operating officer of Wynn Las Vegas, disputed the testimony by one dealer on the amount of lost income. He said dealer wages went down 5 percent to 10 percent under the new tip pooling arrangement. Supervisors, whose duties were changed to be more customer service oriented and who were renamed team leaders, saw their wages go up with the tips to slightly above the dealer salaries, Pascal said. There wasn't just a title change so the supervisors could be added to the tip pool, he said. The Wynn tip policy was upheld in December by Clark County District Judge Douglas Herndon, who cited previous court rulings on the issue. Herndon said the company was not taking away tips, only widening the pool of workers who share in the gratuities. Past court rulings found that the original 1971 prohibition on employers taking tips did not apply if the employer did not directly benefit from the pooling of tips. The Herndon decision is on appeal to the Nevada Supreme Court. The Nevada labor commissioner also upheld the new Wynn Las Vegas tip pooling policy. In September, Wynn began the tip pooling program, in which table game supervisors shared in the tips earned by dealers. Wynn executives said the move was done to correct what had been a widening disparity between the wages earned by dealers and casino floor supervisors. Also speaking in opposition to the bill was Sam McMullen, representing the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce and the Nevada Restaurant Association. He said the bill would limit the flexibility of employers to manage their own businesses. "There are hundreds of tip pooling arrangements," McMullen said. The bill could cause turmoil in many businesses other than hotel-casinos, he said. But Assemblyman William Horne, D-Las Vegas, questioned whether the line has been moved too far as to who in the service industry should be able to share in tips. That is the policy decision before the panel, Horne said. http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2007/Mar-28-Wed-2007/news/13432760.html
Wynn is holding a meeting today with all the dealers 3 days before our union election. Just got out of my meeting. Boyyyyyyyy Steve Wynn is smooth talker. about 150 of us there and some very immature people sitting in the back coughing on purpose. He can not make any promises us by law but rumor has it that he held a managers meeting yesterday and said the tip sharing will stop and they will get a 20k raise plus a 10k bonus. Again that is a rumor but has very reliable sources. In my meeting today with Steve Wynn he said that he was very sorry and made a big mistake and to give him a chance to make it right. I didn't realize things where so bad for you all and didn't think it would make you feel this way and interupt my family. I am asking you to put your faith in me and vote no for the union and I'll make it right and put the smiles back on each one of your faces. I made the choice for the tip pooling at a very bad time because I was very stressed with the opening of Macau and was over worked. I am not perfect and made a mistake and I am sorry. I spoke with a dealer yesterday who has been with me 20 years and was at the bellagio before she came here and she told me that if she knew this plan would of come, that she never would of left her old job and that really hurt me. Pretty much says it all..... Nevada just passed a law that allows employers to charge a employee 10% of there gross income for health insurance. So we will probebly stop paying the floor people but then have to turn around and fork over 10% in health care costs. Back to where we are right now.
Wynn dealers [to] vote on union Election follows heated tip debate By HOWARD STUTZ, REVIEW-JOURNAL, May 12, 2007 Nearly 700 casino dealers at Wynn Las Vegas are expected to participate in a vote today and early Sunday morning to determine if the employees will be represented under a collective bargaining agreement by the Transport Workers Union of America. The election culminates nearly nine months of heated debate at Wynn Las Vegas after the resort's management made a controversial change in how the casino pools and divides the tips earned by casino workers. The policy led to complaints by dealers with the state labor commissioner, a lawsuit filed by two dealers in District Court, sidewalk protests by dealers and proposed legislation in Carson City that would ban the tip-sharing agreement. In April, Wynn dealers overwhelmingly signed union authorization cards with the Transport Workers, a New York-based union that is affiliated with the AFL-CIO and represents 130,000 workers across the country in mass transportation, airlines, railroads, utilities, higher education and municipalities. The union and Wynn executives have spent the past few weeks lobbying for or against joining the union in efforts to sway the dealers' votes. Wynn Resorts Chairman Steve Wynn has met off and on with dealers to try to convince them to vote no on union representation. "We all have made ourselves visible and available to talk with employees," Wynn Las Vegas President Andrew Pascal said Friday. "Our approach has been to make sure our employees are provided with all the information they need when they are faced with making this important decision." Union representatives have also held numerous meetings with the employees. "We are not only holding onto our support, but we are getting support from dealers who were undecided about the union," Wynn dealer Kanie Kastroll, a member of the union organizing committee, said in a statement released by the union. "When Wynn took our tip money, many people realized that our working conditions and tips were not protected." In September, Wynn executives added certain managers and casino supervisors to the list of those who qualify to share in the casino's often-times lucrative tip pool. Wynn dealers said that before the tip pooling program was started, they could earn $100,000 or more annually. Wynn Las Vegas management said it started the policy to correct a pay disparity that had dealers earning more than their supervisors. Critics argued Wynn Las Vegas should raise managers' pay, not broaden the tip pool. Dealers say the change is costing them as much as $20,000 per year. Pascal said Friday that the policy hasn't changed. Dealers have also mounted a heavy Internet campaign to encourage support for the organizing effort. Nevada labor leaders have been relatively quiet on the organizing campaign. In April, Danny Thompson, executive secretary-treasurer of the Nevada AFL-CIO, sent a letter to Wynn dealers expressing support for the formation of the union. Frank McCann Jr., who is directing the organizing efforts for the Transport Workers Union, said dealers at other Strip resorts could be organized if the Wynn campaign is successful. "Right now our focus is with the Wynn dealers, but a movement of all dealers has been growing stronger by the day," McCann said. Wynn Las Vegas already has labor agreements in place with other unions, including a lengthy contract with Culinary Workers Local 226 that expires in 2015. A vote for union representation by dealers at Wynn Las Vegas could mirror a movement in Atlantic City. Dealers at four of the New Jersey gaming community's 11 casinos have voted to join the United Auto Workers. Dealers at Trump Marina were expected to vote on union authorization Friday while dealers at Bally's will vote on the matter June 2. Even if Wynn dealers vote to approve union representation, it's uncertain if a contract can be reached. In 2001, the Transport Workers Union moved to organize dealers at 13 casinos, winning elections at the Tropicana, Stratosphere and New Frontier, but was defeated at other properties. The effort was eventually dropped without any agreements being reached. http://www.lvrj.com/business/7475822.html
CASINO INDUSTRY: Dealers at Wynn resort ratify union Vote for TWU representation approved by almost 3-1 margin By HOWARD STUTZ, REVIEW-JOURNAL, May 14, 2007 Casino dealers at Wynn Las Vegas voted by an almost a 3-1 margin in favor of union representation despite an impassioned eleventh hour hour plea by company Chairman Steve Wynn, who told his workers on the eve of the election it had been a mistake to implement a controversial change in the tip pooling program that led to the employee unrest. Wynn dealers voted in the National Labor Relations Board-sanctioned election Saturday and early Sunday morning. NLRB representatives were unavailable Sunday and did not release the vote total. But the final tally, 444 for union representation, 149 opposed, was confirmed by both dealers' representatives and Wynn executives. Once the labor organization officially certifies the vote, the New York-based Transport Workers Union of America will be allowed to negotiate a collective bargaining agreement for the dealers with hotel executives. Wynn Las Vegas employs around 700 full-time and part-time dealers at the lavish Strip casino, which opened in April 2005 at a cost of $2.7 billion. Wynn Resorts is currently building Encore, an accompanying $2.1 billion hotel-casino that is expected to open in 2009. Wynn representatives were not available for comment Sunday. But Frank McCann Jr., who directed the organizing drive for the Transport Workers, said he believes the union and Wynn executives can come to common ground on a contract. "We'll get information from the Wynn people and we have what the dealers would like to see happen, and we believe we can get something done quickly," McCann said. The overwhelming majority vote for union representation came despite a personal appeal from Wynn, who asked to the dealers not to bring in an outside organization as their representative. Wynn spoke to dealers Thursday in a group setting for about 20 minutes. The speech was recorded by a dealer and posted on the Internet. In the meeting, Wynn said NLRB regulations forbid him from making promises in order to sway votes so he stopped short of telling dealers he would eliminate the tip-pooling program. However, Wynn accepted full blame for implementing the tip-pooling program last September. "I got it wrong, I hurt you and I apologize," Wynn said. "Sometimes people with good intentions make mistakes." On Sept. 1, Wynn executives added certain managers and casino supervisors to the list of those who qualify to share in the casino's often-times lucrative tip pool. Wynn dealers said that before the tip pooling program was started, they could earn $100,000 or more annually. Wynn Las Vegas management said it started the policy to correct a pay disparity that had dealers earning more than their supervisors. Critics argued Wynn Las Vegas should raise managers' pay, not broaden the tip pool. Dealers say the change is costing them as much as $20,000 per year. "This was my mistake and I only have myself to blame," Wynn said. "I have a 40-year history of taking care of the people I work with. "What this caused was the loss of the feeling of family warmth and happiness that we had here. I got it wrong. I tried to do right for the bosses but I hurt you. I made a mistake," he also said. Wynn didn't take questions, but told dealers he was "preoccupied" in September with the Wynn Resorts opening of the Wynn Macau, the company's $1 billion hotel-casino in Chinese gaming enclave. The tip-pooling program spawned nine months of heated debate at the hotel, including complaints by dealers with the state labor commissioner, a lawsuit filed by two dealers in District Court, sidewalk protests by dealers and proposed legislation in Carson City that would ban the tip-sharing agreement. Wynn, however, complimented his workers, saying Wynn Las Vegas achieved five-star and five diamond ratings despite the controversy. "I understand how steamed and how betrayed you feel, but you are classy because you took care of our customers," Wynn said. Wynn Las Vegas has union contracts covering various cross sections of the 9,000-person work force, including a lengthy deal with Culinary Workers Local 226, than expires in 2015. However, Wynn told dealers representation by the Transport Worked Union would be a mistake. "A union comes between the employer, me, and you," Wynn said. "It complicates our relationship. Our future as a family is based on use being together." Employees applauded Wynn at the close of the talk. McCann said it seemed logical, based on Wynn's comments, that the first thing he would do is eliminate the tip-pooling program. "The organizing committee did a very good job, and now we'll move forward," McCann said. The Transport Workers is affiliated with the AFL-CIO and represents 130,000 employees across the country in mass transportation, airlines, railroads, utilities, higher education and municipalities. In 2001, the Transport Workers Union moved to organize dealers at 13 casinos, winning elections at the Tropicana, Stratosphere and New Frontier, but was defeated at other properties. McCann said Sunday the union represents casino workers at The New Frontier. http://www.lvrj.com/business/7491402.html
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Well with a max bet of 5k in the normal betting area you won't be able to do this. I am pretty sure that the max bet inside the salon would be 10k also with a single 0. I don't deal that game very often so I am not sure if I saw 10,000 players yet but I am sure I never saw someone do that yet. Most people chase the color not hitting after about 5 spins. Those table signs that show the numbers that hit are the best thing ever to happen to that game. They bring in so many n00bs that think red is sooooooo over due because black hit 10x in a row.