WTI up about $40

Discussion in 'Economics' started by ajacobson, Apr 20, 2020.

  1. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Buck a barrel
     
  2. padutrader

    padutrader

    it says up 40 usd and a buck a barrel

    what does this mean

    is it only me
     
  3. apdxyk

    apdxyk

    It was a semi-joke as the May contract settled at around minus 38 dollars on Monday. yes, that was a negative value there
     
  4. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Just went negative again - up over 37 from the previous settlement of -37.63
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2020
  5. themickey

    themickey

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/20/this-oil-price-crash-isnt-as-bad-as-it-seems-heres-why.html

    This oil price crash isn’t as bad as it seems — here’s why
    Published Mon, Apr 20 20202:19 PM EDTUpdated 4 hours ago
    Pippa Stevens@PippaStevens13
    Key Points
    • Something that’s never happened in the oil market just occurred: negative prices on an oil contract.
    • While many people may see this and think the overall price of oil is negative, there’s nuance.
    • The picture in the market is not as bleak as this eye-popping headline would suggest.
    While many people may see this and think the overall price of oil is negative, there’s nuance. The short answer is that no, not all oil is free.

    Futures contracts are tied to a specific delivery date. Toward the end of a contract’s expiration date, the price typically converges with the physical price of oil as the final buyers of these contracts are entities like refineries or airlines that are going to take actual physical delivery of the oil.

    Futures contracts ultimately are contracts for physical delivery of the underlying commodity or security. While some people in the market speculate on the contracts, others are buying and selling because they have use for the commodity itself. Near the contract’s expiration, traders just start buying the next month’s futures contract. Those who stay in the position to the final day are typically buying the physical commodity, such as a refiner.

    The West Texas Intermediate crude contract that fell more than 100% on Monday is for May delivery, and it expires Tuesday. With the coronavirus pandemic leading to unprecedented demand loss, and with storage tanks quickly filling up, there is no demand for this oil contract expiring Tuesday.

    That’s why it turned negative, meaning producers would pay to get this oil off their hands because there is no one that needs that crude this week with the country shutdown.

    Futures contracts trade by the month. The contract for June delivery was 16% lower at $21.04 per barrel.

    So after the May contract expires on Tuesday, oil could be back above $20.

    Trading volume was also relatively thin in the May contract. According to data from the CME Group, volume stood at roughly 126,400. By comparison volume for the June contract was nearly 800,000.

    John Kilduff of Again Capital attributed the plunge in the May contract to the fact that “the physical oil market conditions are a disaster, with growing concerns about finding available storage.”

    Longer term, he said the picture looks brighter.

    “The higher priced, longer-dated futures contracts are indicative of the market expecting some level of clearing in the cash market over the course of the next several months,” he told CNBC. “Given the rapid decline in the U.S. oil rig count and the expected cutback by OPEC+ members that is a reasonable assumption.”

    That said, he noted that as the subsequent contracts reach expiration, they could engage in their own “death march down towards the super-low cash prices.”
     
  6. TBH I don't understand, what does it mean. Negative price? Do we need to pay people so they will take our oil? LOL.
     
  7. maxinger

    maxinger

    down it goes again from $22 to $12 (ie half price)

    those who traded with trend should be happy.

    those who traded based on hope might be gnashing their teeth.
     
  8. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    That is just discount Tuesday. Bitcoin used to have it.
     
  9. SanMiguel

    SanMiguel

  10. S2007S

    S2007S

    Look at June contract tanking and it's only day 1

    This is going to be extremely unsettling for the equity markets once again.
     
    #10     Apr 21, 2020