WTF is wrong with Chile?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by lentus, Oct 28, 2019.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Well, this gives a different view. It mentioned New Zealand and I think this German Dr. Zitelmann fellow might be a bit.. well he has a LOT of focus on the Nazis and such which is fine but is he a fringe guy?

    That said, the countries Americans call simply "socialist" are really just running strong social programs and don't have the US hangup about the S word.

    This however is very good, presenter has superb dry delivery.

     
    #11     Oct 28, 2019
  2. I guess you were not around when this was posted. So here it is for your enlighment.

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    I posted this earlier...

    "The real key to Scandinavia’s unique successes isn’t socialism, it’s culture. Social trust and cohesion, a broad egalitarian ethic, a strong emphasis on work and responsibility, commitment to the rule of law — these are healthy attributes of a Nordic culture that was ingrained over centuries. In the region’s small and homogeneous countries (overwhelmingly white, Protestant, and native-born), those norms took deep root. The good outcomes and high living standards they produced antedated the socialist nostrums of the 1970s. Scandinavia’s quality of life didn’t spring from leftist policies. It survived them.

    Sanandaji makes the acute observation that when Scandinavian emigrants left for the United States, those cultural attributes went with them and produced the same good effects. Scandinavian-Americans have higher incomes and lower poverty rates than the US average. Indeed, Danish-Americans economically outperform Danes still living in Denmark, as do Swedish-Americans compared with Swedes and Finnish-Americans compared with Finns. Scandinavian culture has been a blessing for native Scandinavians — and even more of one for their cousins across the ocean.

    No, Scandinavia doesn’t “violate the laws of the economic universe.” It confirms them. With free markets and healthy values, almost any society will thrive. Socialism only makes things worse."

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...list-utopia/lUk9N7dZotJRbvn8PosoIN/story.html
     
    #12     Oct 28, 2019
  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Well nobody is arguing that you don't need a cultural work ethic. Nothing works without that however you can safely assume the top in wealth per capita, excluding the artificially rich tax havens and say really only oil economies have a work ethic.

    Have you watched that short talk I posted? I don't watch too many myself but that one is I believe really set to change some old ideas.
     
    #13     Oct 28, 2019
  4. I did.
     
    #14     Oct 28, 2019
  5. Perhaps, but I would argue that a more likely factor was the massive increase in third world immigration.
     
    #15     Oct 28, 2019
  6. So the obvious thing to do was bring in millions of low skill third world immigrants who share none of those values and who instead bring their own culture of violence, corruption and religious bigotry.
     
    #16     Oct 28, 2019
  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    To be quite honest having been looking for where OptionPro007 posted his piece before (assuming he had in the past) to see what if anything got through to him, I saw he ran a business under the name so he is not really hiding his identity then but I won't reveal it.

    This is what an education means, going in prepared. And education matters a lot, not just them Calvinist and Lutheran whatnot work ethics.

    Going by the address and such I can using not Google (a much better engine) he looks exactly like his profile pic, Swedish AND he is not wealthy enough to know anything about what makes wealth. Though I'll grant some sense of humour on the profile picture.

    So screw this talking to a loser, I'm off for my dinner.
     
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    #17     Oct 28, 2019
  8. Haha! I have never posted personal identifying information on this website. If I did, please send me a PM with it and I will exit this forum.

    You were wrong and the article I posted noted that. Just accept it.
     
    #18     Oct 29, 2019
  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Yep. Those Scandinavian folks... Lutherans... they run a tight ship. That's why you never bet against these companies. All in Minnesota. Just off the top of my head...
    unh
    tgt
    best buy
    3m
    general mills
    Ameriprise
    Us Bankcorp
    Hormel
    Polaris

    Kinda standoffish people though lol.
     
    #19     Oct 29, 2019
  10. It's the lutefisk that does it to them, man.

    Have some compassion.

    Viewers have no need to know what that is if they do not know already. If someone asks you to come by and try their lutefisk, just tell em that you have to stay home and read your deleted mail.

    You can thank me later.
     
    #20     Oct 29, 2019