Would you do it all over again?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by dimestock, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. lpchad

    lpchad

    Can you elaborate more on your lifestyle? Is it like the one Hold Brothers promises trading in the morning and running a snowboard shop in the afternoon? Or how about always being steps away from your swimming pool?
     
    #21     Apr 17, 2009
  2. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    No luxury, fancy stuff for me...I didn't say I was making a lot of money and don't know if fancy stuff is really for me.

    I just wake at 6:45 AM, take a coffee, trade until 12:30... Eat, watch the simpsons, go running or skateboarding at the local concrete park with friends 'til 3PM. Have a shower. Back to trading from 3:45 PM to 8:10 PM, eat, perhaps go the local bar play pool with my brother( the guy is literally full of chicks and I'm single at the moment ) or friends, or just watch TV til midnight.

    I live in one of my family houses near Grenoble, France, so I snowboard every WE in the winter and sometimes make some heli-ski.

    In the summer, my father has 2 houses( with pools...LOL ) on the french riviera and I settle there from June 'til August with my triple screens and trading stuff. I also like to travel a lot ( Russia, Spain, Corsica, Tunisia last year ) but not when I'm single.

    Here's my lifestyle. When I type this, I really feel blessed.
     
    #22     Apr 17, 2009
  3. Aboveyou

    Aboveyou

    LOOOOOLLLLL

    YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO TRADE BUT YOU HAVE A RICH DADDY AND SO YOU SURVIVE

    LOL

    thanks, I needed a laugh today :p
     
    #23     Apr 17, 2009
  4. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    Yes, Cold, C-Kid... You're right about one thing : A lot of my lifestyle has more to do with my dad's wealth than mine . I have never ever needed money and thus was in the good environment to learn trading and be able to live off it after the learning years...

    Should I be ashamed? Not really, About 80 % of all traders have a rich family but 90 % of them lose part of the family wealth in trading instead of contributing to it.

    I should have invented a story where I was working in a copper mine to pay my first charting software, but I leave that to you.
     
    #24     Apr 17, 2009
  5. Your dad probably is and should be.

    LOL, keep deluding yourself.
     
    #25     Apr 17, 2009
  6. Kid, this ain't the place and far from the time. You missed the boat. If you take an analytical look at getting into trading for yourself, it's just not the place to be if you want to make money. The odds are highly against you, the space is very crowded, the regulators are working against you, hence rising costs.

    It was lucrative years ago and even more lucrative before that. This game is now for pros, not new entrants.

    I got similar advice when I was starting out and even though I still caught some lucrative times, I realized years after that I let much better opportunities pass me by.

    The passion & excitement do wear off, in fact, it's just like poker where the pros say that if you're having fun playing it, you're not doing it right.
     
    #26     Apr 17, 2009
  7. lpchad

    lpchad

    There will always have to be those that are able to make it. I certainly agree with your last part that if it is exciting you are likely not approaching it like a business.
     
    #27     Apr 17, 2009
  8. It is absolutely worth it, IF you make it. But it is far from easy or a sure thing to have sustained success. No other profession teaches you more about yourself than trading (both the good and bad).

    Many fantasize about how great trading is only because they only see the romanticized version of what they think traders do. They imagine someone with a bank of screens, feet on the desk, hitting a key every so often and watching money roll in. Let there be no illusions. The real truth is you will work harder than you have in your life. And you are young enough you probably don’t know what real work is yet. It can be stressful to those without the proper mental framework. Depending on your style, you may be staring at screens for hours at a time. Go to the bathroom? Not if the markets are moving you aren’t (which is a lot these days). Yes, I have an "emergency" pee bottle. You can do everything right and still lose. Are you willing to work hard enough to reach the top 5% of a profession that makes it to some degree? Because you won’t be successful if you don’t make it into the 5% max that last (my number and is probably optimistic).

    It is a game that is always changing in subtle ways. But human psychology doesn’t change. Those who don’t adapt get eliminated. I do what I should I make money, I don’t I lose money. Very democratic and the way it should be (for those who can handle it). You are responsible for whatever happens, good or bad. You can take satisfaction in knowing few can do what you do. But of course, if you don’t do the right things or suffer a “sunspot theory” moment, you could be out of business tomorrow. Can you handle that level of uncertainty? Do you think you can compete with anyone who treats this like a business (most don’t)? Are you willing to learn an edge, develop a real trading plan (19 pages) and then if you make it that far, do you have the discipline to follow your plan? That is the hardest part for some.

    If you will do these things you have a small chance to make it. But if you are lax in any area, on any day, in any mood, many will take your money faster than you know what happened with no apologies. Can you handle that? The truth. If that realism scares you in any way, move on now. Trading isn’t for everybody.

    We welcome all newcomers. We like competition. Why? Because we know few are doing more than passing through. Most don’t have what it takes. But have no illusions. You are in the fight of your life for the rest of your trading life. But don’t let that discourage you. Probably not what you want to hear but there it is.

    Good luck

    BM
     
    #28     Apr 17, 2009
  9. Stosh

    Stosh

    I don't know for sure but I'd bet that the LONG-TERM successful 10% of traders know a little something about economics, politics, foreign affairs, and follow the news......not just the charts. Stosh
     
    #29     Apr 17, 2009
  10. Can you tell us how you derive the figure "80%" of all traders have a rich family?
     
    #30     Apr 17, 2009