Would rather hold the debt of the US or of Apple?

Discussion in 'Fixed Income' started by zdreg, May 5, 2020.

Is US debt better then Apple debt?

  1. yes

    3 vote(s)
    42.9%
  2. No

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%
  3. I only have time to worry about my own debt.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. zdreg

    zdreg

    Which is more secure?
     
  2. there is significant chance apple will not exist or default in the next 30 years maybe up to 50%

    there is 99% chance USA will exist and 0% will default
     
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  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Risk and return for everyone. except those in Congress , the President and his family and friends and everyone else with inside information, are always directly related, but the relationship may not be linear.
     
  4. bone

    bone ET Sponsor

    The question should really be: why does Apple Corporate Paper yield 78 basis points above US Sovereign paper?

    Has there ever been a failed US Treasury debt auction, even at these yields?

    http://cbonds.com/emissions/issue/53013

    Does Apple issuing massive amounts of Corporate paper in order to buy back shares instead of investing in their product line research & development make them more susceptible to problems and downgrades in the future?

    https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/05/05/apple-sells-85-billion-in-bonds-to-fuel-share-buyb.aspx

     
  5. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    As a binary question/answer, Apple (private) debt is preferred over government (public) debt.

    Govt can change any facet(s) of it's debt or it's terms including expiry at any time. (look at what is being proposed in the EU, Perpetual Debt, it never gets paid back, nor does it ever extinguish!).