Would Bush have been impeached?

That's just fucking stupid thinking as per usual for you.

1) With the intel that we had there is no question assets could have been brought to bear that would have dramatically changed the outcome.

2) Even if ground forces might be too late to save some people, you don't stand down because that's a possibility.

3) Even if they thought it was highly likely all persons in the consulate would be killed or captured. ]You don't just say ho hum and go back to bed.
At that point in time it might just be a body recovery effort or hostage prevention/tracking effort. In no case do you just sit on your ass like they do on TV and wait for the hostage takers to get all nice and settled phoning in their demands/ grievances.

There's only 2 logical reasons not to have sent assistance, and neither are excuseable.

1) team obama would have to admit to terrorist's alive and well right under their silly noses in a country that was supposed to be some great victory for obama.

2) Seeing as how they knew what weapons systems they had supplied the Libyan rebels. They were afraid it was an elaborate ambush.

namely man portable surface to air missile systems would present a HUGE threat to a rescue operations.

now where on earth did the sand n*****s get get top notch US produced Stingers?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/w...e-brought-down-a-jet.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


Of course the US isn't the only source of SAM's

Any of you other cheese dick liberals got anything to say?

 

Lol!!!!!!!!!! If the guy were old school Japanese, he would have committed hara kiri after dishonoring himself like that. However, being a true to form lunatic, he stays and posts like nothing ever happened.

 

Just like his fellow ET clown Buckwheat. They have no shame.

 

I'll tell you this much; had a Platoon of Marines been under ambush in a hostile area, and the reinforcements received radio calls for help, and didn't send it, that would be an offense where a court martial would have been a 100% guarantee. In fact, the persons responsible for not sending reinforcement could face life in Leavenworth, if they're lucky. The guys who survived (if any survived), would probably try to kill the cowardly bastards!

 

As well they should.

 

Sad part is the injured survivors from this mess are being hidden. If bush had pulled this, the msm would have led an assault on Walter Reid Hospital to get to these survivors. Until obammer and the rest of his Gestapo (and there are many), are ran out IN HANDCUFFS, we're living in a communist country.

 

I prefer their heads on pikes.
Vlad the impaler had the right idea on muslims and other goat fuckers of obama's ilk.

 

YES he did. That guy was "old school".

 

This is what makes the episode in Benghazi so suspicious. All the excuses that were made as to why there wasn't back-up available. I ain't buying it, and did not believe it from day 1. I am beginning to believe Obama is not going to survive or be able to lie his way out this time.

 

Bush did have a Fast and Furious and The IRS targeting democratic groups and he wasn't impeached










http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-second-bush-era-gun-smuggling-probe-202043091.html


AP Exclusive: Second Bush-era gun-smuggling probe


WASHINGTON (AP) — A second Bush administration gun-trafficking investigation has surfaced using the same controversial tactic for which congressional Republicans have been criticizing the Obama administration.

The tactic, called "gun walking," is already under investigation by the Justice Department's inspector general and by congressional Republicans, who have criticized the administration of Democratic President Barack Obama for letting it happen in an operation called "Fast and Furious".

Emails obtained by The Associated Press show how in a 2007 investigation in Phoenix, agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives — depending on Mexican authorities to follow up — let guns "walk" across the border in an effort to identify higher-ups in gun networks. Justice Department policy has long required that illicit arms shipments be intercepted whenever possible.

The 2007 probe operated out of the same ATF office that more recently ran the flawed Operation Fast and Furious. Both probes resulted in weapons disappearing across the border into Mexico, according to the emails. The 2007 probe was relatively small — involving over 200 weapons, just a dozen of which ended up in Mexico as a result of gun-walking. Fast and Furious involved over 2,000 weapons, some 1,400 of which have not been recovered and an unknown number of which wound up in Mexico.

Earlier this month, it was disclosed that the gun-walking tactic didn't begin under Obama, but was also used in 2006 under his predecessor, George W. Bush. The probe, Operation Wide Receiver, was carried out by ATF's Tucson, Ariz., office and resulted in hundreds of guns being transferred to suspected arms traffickers.

The older gun-walking cases now coming to light from the Bush administration illustrate how ATF — particularly its Phoenix field division, encompassing Tucson, Ariz., as well as Phoenix — has struggled for years to counter criticism that its normal seize-and-arrest tactics never caught any trafficking kingpins and were little more than a minor irritant that didn't keep U.S. guns out of the hands of Mexican gangs.

Even those cases against low-level straw buyers are problematic for the ATF. There is no federal firearms trafficking law, making it difficult to prosecute cases. So law enforcement agencies resort to a wide variety of laws that do not carry stringent penalties — particularly for straw buyers.

Documents and emails relating to the 2007 case were produced or made available months ago to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, though the Republicans on the panel have said little about them. In the congressional investigation, committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., has focused on the questions of what Obama's Attorney General, Eric Holder, knew about Fast and Furious, and when he knew it.

The 2007 probe began when an ATF agent identified several suspects from Mexico who bought weapons from a gun shop in Phoenix over a span of several months.

According to the emails obtained by AP, the probe ran into trouble after agents saw the same suspects buy additional weapons from the same store and followed the suspects south toward the border at Nogales, Ariz., on Sept. 27, 2007. ATF officials notified the government of Mexico to be on the lookout. ATF agents saw the vehicle the suspects were driving reach the Mexican side of the border, but 20 minutes later, Mexican law enforcement authorities informed ATF that they did not see the vehicle.

Committee spokesman Frederick Hill said the documents on the 2007 probe stand in contrast to statements "the Obama administration's Justice Department made to Congress in February 2011 that 'ATF makes every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transportation to Mexico.'"

Hill added that one difference between the 2007 incident and Operation Fast and Furious was that in the 2007 operation, "Mexican authorities were notified. However, in Operation Fast and Furious the Mexican authorities were deliberately kept in the dark."

The emails from the 2007 probe show there was concern that ATF in Arizona had engaged in a tactic that resulted in the guns disappearing inside Mexico.

"Have we discussed the strategy with the US Attorney's Office re letting the guns walk?" headquarters official William Hoover asked in an Oct. 4, 2007 email to William Newell, then ATF's special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division.

"Do we have this approval in writing?" asked Hoover. "Have we discussed and thought thru the consequences of same? Are we tracking south of the border? Same re US Attorney's Office. Did we find out why they missed the hand-off of the vehicle?"

At the time, Hoover was assistant director for the office of field operations. He was ATF's deputy director from May 2009 to September 2011 and is now special agent in charge of ATF's Washington, D.C., field division.

"Would like your opinion on a verbal approval from the US Attorney in Phoenix re the firearms walking," Hoover emailed ATF's senior legal counsel for field operations on Oct. 5, 2007. "This is a major investigation with huge political implications and great potential if all goes well. We must also be very prepared if it doesn't go well."

The lawyer, Anne Marie Paskalis, wrote back: "Sure. We will work this out. Perhaps a conference call ... to discuss what if any assurances they have received from USAO that this investigation is operating within the law and doj (Department of Justice) guidelines."

On Oct. 5, Hoover wrote Carson Carroll, then ATF's assistant director for enforcement programs and services at agency headquarters in Washington, D.C., saying "I do not want any firearms to go South until further notice. I expect a full briefing paper on my desk Tuesday morning from SAC Newell with every question answered. I will not allow this case to go forward until we have written documentation from the US Attorney's office re full and complete buy in. I do not want anyone briefed on this case until I approve the information. This includes anyone in Mexico."

On Oct. 6, Newell, the Phoenix SAC, wrote Carroll: "I think we both understand the extremely positive potential for a case such as this but at this point I'm so frustrated with this whole mess I'm shutting the case down and any further attempts to do something similar. We're done trying to pursue new and innovative initiatives — it's not worth the hassle."

Newell, as the special agent in charge of the Phoenix division, was at the center of Operation Fast and Furious. He has acknowledged that mistakes were made in the agency's handling of the operation, and has been reassigned to a Washington headquarters job.

















http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/irs-targeted-naacp-in-2004-91284.html


IRS targeted NAACP in 2004


This isn't the first time the IRS has been in hot water for meddling in the politics of nonprofits. And if past is prelude, the Obama administration may have a years-long scandal on its hands.

In 2004, the NAACP was hit with an audit over accusations of improper political activity for criticizing the Bush administration.

"We have received information that during your 2004 convention in Philadelphia, your organization distributed statements in opposition of George W. Bush for the office of presidency," the IRS wrote in an audit notice that the group released to the media at the time.

Auditors also notified the group that it could be subject to a 10 percent tax for political expenditures as well as a 2.5 percent tax on any manager that signed off on the political activity.

The NAACP went public and sparked a now-familiar firestorm. Democrats in Congress were up in arms and called for answers about what constitutes political activity and questioning the political motivations of the agency.

Rep. Charles Rangel, the top Democrat on the Ways and Means Committee at the time, called the audit a police state tactic. Max Baucus, then the ranking member on the Senate Finance Committee, sent a letter to then-IRS Commissioner Mark Everson demanding answers to a list of questions about other similar audits.

“The integrity of our tax enforcement system is a critical matter,” Baucus wrote at the time. “The American public expects a high degree of non-partisanship and professionalism from the IRS."

The agency denied a culture of bias. They said the audit was triggered by staffers in a satellite office, this time in Kentucky.

It took more than two years and a lengthy legal battle for the IRS to drop its case against the NAACP. That was all well before the Supreme Court unleashed a flood of political groups into the IRS pool with its Citizens United decision.

“It caught the IRS completely flatfooted,” Lloyd Mayer, one of the attorneys that represented the NAACP in the case, told POLITICO on Monday. “They had never even thought of the possibility that one of their audit targets would go public and accuse the agency of bias.”










Terrorists killed more then 2800 Americans on Bushes watch then Obamas watch and Bush lies to start an illegal war is far worse then any lies Obama told and he wasn't impeached