Worshippers of Death

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by dddooo, Mar 3, 2008.

    March 3, 2008

    Zahra Maladan is an educated woman who edits a women's magazine in Lebanon. She is also a mother, who undoubtedly loves her son. She wants her son to become a suicide bomber. Ms. Maladan was quoted in the New York Times giving the following warning to her son: "if you're not going to follow the steps of the Islamic resistance martyrs, then I don't want you."

    More and more young women -- some married with infant children -- are strapping bombs to their (sometimes pregnant) bellies, because they have been taught to love death rather than life.

    We are going to win, because they love life and we love death," said Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah.

    He has also said: "[E]ach of us lives his days and nights hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah."

    Shortly after 9/11, Osama bin Laden told a reporter: "We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us."

    "The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death," explained Afghani al Qaeda operative Maulana Inyadullah.

    Sheik Feiz Mohammed, leader of the Global Islamic Youth Center in Sydney, Australia, preached: "We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid."

    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in a speech: "It is the zenith of honor for a man, a young person, boy or girl, to be prepared to sacrifice his life in order to serve the interests of his nation and his religion."

    Mr. Dershowitz teaches law at Harvard University
  2. see that is one fucked up person right there. The major flaw within this system (system being the universe) is that destruction is many times easier than development and maintenance, now I don't know which mother fucker designed it, but I can say from the way it was designed that, that is what the designer intended it to be, a dominos, you know build it build it, then push it so it all comes falling down.

    anyhow I'm not trying and never tried to defend these bastards, but to be honest the first fuckhead who is the cause of all this is the creator of it, and he also claims to be the cause of all things, so we should in the first and foremost place criticize Allah or God or whichever one of these jerks came up with this brilliant plan of creating this universe, then we should go about criticizing his creations.

    but then these idiots are the ones defending Allah and his like, so they should be put to a wall and shot, before they attempt to harm anyone of us.

  3. Hey dddooo. I will expose you. I will expose the zionists behind you and I will expose what these zionists are doing to the fabric of this country and to FREEDOM OF SPEACH

    Alan Dershowitz Huh??? Will let us tell everyone in here, who is this hero of yours and what is he doing to promote freedom of speech and, above all, a peacefull agenda that has nothing to do with serving your zionist entity's interests against that of the US

    Perspective Sunday November 11, 2007

    Taking on the lobby

    Professor Norman Finkelstein says his dismissal from a major US university was presaged by his willingness to speak the truth about the influence of pro-Israel groups on policies coming out of Washington


    'I have no regrets," says Norman Finkelstein, after losing one of the most divisive and publicised campus battles in US history.

    Despite student demonstrations and sit-ins, protests from some of the world's most prominent academics and an outcry from free speech groups, Finkelstein was dismissed from DePaul University, the US' largest Catholic university. The firing generated headlines around the world with many claiming it was an effort to gag his criticisms of the Israel lobby and Israel's human rights record in Palestine.
    One of the most well-known and outspoken commentators on Israeli policy, Finkelstein is the author of five noted books on the Israel-Palestine issue and is a popular speaker on the subject

    Finkelstein accuses the lobby of using the Holocaust to stifle debate on Israel and to embezzle funds earmarked for Holocaust victims. Much of Finkelstein's research on Israel relies on mainstream human rights organisations, which he says universally condemn Israel for torture, illegal imprisonment and intentionally killing civilians..

    Many suspect that his dismissal is part of a national house-cleaning against critics of Israel and the pro-Israel lobby. The alleged campaign has seen numerous academics fired or demoted, and high-profile speeches at US universities cancelled following pressure from pro-Israel groups.

    Even mainstream activists like Archbishop Desmond Tutu, who was key in bringing down South Africa's apartheid regime, have incurred the wrath of the lobby for criticising Israel.

    According to Finkelstein, the furor over the Israel issue has everything to do with the lobby.

    "There is nothing unusual about the Israel/Palestine issue, apart from the fact that there is a lobby here that prevents any kind of rational debate," he said in a phone interview.

    When Finkelstein came up for tenure last autumn, a series of pro-Israel and neo-conservative groups are believed to have campaigned against his appointment. The university also received a dossier from Israel-backer and former OJ Simpson lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who accused him of anti-Semitism.

    Finkelstein was dismissed this autumn despite receiving
    outstanding student reviews and being endorsed by his department colleagues.

    In his usual frank manner, Finkelstein said that the pro-Israel lobby is willing to use unsavoury methods to discredit critical thinkers.

    "There is no other field where a gang of hoodlums use their money and their brass knuckles to prevent tenure appointments, and that's very odd. There are other politicised fields like Cuba studies or China studies - but these kinds of jihads and witch hunts - they just don't go on in other fields," he said. This allegedly involves blacklisting and smear campaigns by pro-Israel organisations like Campus Watch, the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) and Frontpage. Campus Watch is one of the most controversial groups and is said have encouraged students to inform on their professors for de facto blacklisting. Campus Watch maintains that it is merely trying to counteract liberal bias on campuses.

    Exposing misuse

    Norman Finkelstein was born in Brooklyn in 1953. Both of his parents narrowly survived the Nazi Holocaust, which he says had a major impact on his childhood and academic life.

    "Neither of my parents ever spoke of their respective families' fate (from the Holocaust). If questioned, (my mother's) voice cracked, her breath quickened, her eyes moistened, she turned or lowered her head," he wrote in his childhood account entitled Haunted House.

    Finkelstein has dedicated much of his career to exposing what he called the "misuse of the Holocaust" by Israel backers.

    But Finkelstein's most heated dispute was with the pro-Israel-activist and former OJ Simpson lawyer Alan Dershowitz.

    Finkelstein published the book Beyond Chutzpah, where he accused Dershowitz of plagiarism and misquotation in his bestseller The Case for Israel. Letters obtained under the State of California's freedom of information laws suggest that Dershowitz may have urged Governor Schwartzenegger to suppress the book's publication under the guise of "prevent(ing) an impending scandal"..

    The effort failed, but Dershowitz persevered and his lobbying is believed to have been a key factor in Finkelstein's dismissal from DePaul.

    One of Finkelstein's most vocal backers is Noam Chomsky, voted the 20th century's most important academic.

    "There's never been anything remotely like it, to my knowledge," Chomsky wrote of the Finkelstein issue in an email response.

    "The pressure in this case was of an unusual kind.... Finkelstein wrote a very important book...He framed the book in part as a response to a disgraceful piece of apologetics produced by Dershowitz, and demonstrated, conclusively, that Dershowitz is...[a] charlatan, and vulgar apologist for the atrocities of
    his favoured state," Chomsky wrote. Chomsky also said that universities are under immense pressure from pro-Israel groups, who often accuse them of anti-Semitism for keeping critical academics on the payroll.

    Finkelstein says that even with his dismissal, the tables are turning on the pro-Israel lobby, which has come under serious scrutiny over the past year with the publication of two ground-breaking books - The Israel Lobby by Walt and Mearsheimer and Peace not Apartheid by former US president Jimmy Carter -
    both of which stimulated unprecedented debate on the lobby's role in American politics.

    "In terms of its strength, the Israel lobby is beginning to fall apart. The case for Israel is becoming indefensible. Israel's human rights record, the actual historical record, and the diplomatic record, are becoming better known. And the more the facts are becoming part of mainstream discourse, the
    more the lobby has a difficult time defending what is indefensible," said Finkelstein.

    "I was a bit of an odd case because I was both an academic and highly political. Most academics are not involved in politics...So the standards of academia remain the same as they have been."

    Finkelstein said that he has no plans and that he wants to put the DePaul incident behind him. But if his colourful website is any indicator, Finkelstein has been anything but silenced. He has been on a speaking tour that to Japan, the UK and to US destinations.

    Bio DATA

    Norman Finkelstein was born in 1953 in Brooklyn, New York. He received his doctorate in 1988 from Princeton University, after completing a thesis on Zionism. He has published five books on the Israel-Palestine issue, including The Holocaust Industry in 2000 and Beyond Chutzpah in 2005.

    Finkelstein is a popular speaker and commentator and has been featured on the BBC, Al Jazeera and numerous other major media outlets. He is unmarried.

    The Post Publishing Public Co., Ltd. 2007
  4. The same zionist guy who is working, along with his zionist lobby and his Campus watch, to gag the children of Holocoust survivers is kicking in the secound leg of his hate promotin campaign to serve the agenda of his zionist state over that of the US.

    Gag any criticism of the zionist entity -> promote hate against Muslims to justify crimes committed against israel's opponents and to enlist angered third party to get engaged in the war on behalf of the zionist state -> When exposed -> Gag any criticism of the zionist entity.
  5. Wael. What does your post have to do with the subject of this thread? Are you denying the authenticity of the quotes in Harvard Professor Dershowitz's article? Is disgraced former Professor Norman Finkelstein challenging the authenticity of any of the following quotes:

    Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah:
    -they love life and we love death
    -hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah.

    Osama Bin Laden
    -We love death. The U.S. loves life

    Al Qaeda operative Maulana Inyadullah.
    -The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death

    Sheik Feiz Mohammed, leader of the Global Islamic Youth Center in Sydney, Australia
    -There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid.

    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
    -It is the zenith of honor for a man, a young person, boy or girl, to be prepared to sacrifice his life

    Please tell me which one of these quotes Harvard Professor Dershowitz lied about and we'll condemn him together.
  6. Another chapter from early Islamic history — serving as a lesson for today's Muslims at war against the West — is the concept of the love of death. This originated at the Battle of Qadisiyya in the year 636, when the commander of the Muslim forces, Khalid ibn Al-Walid, sent an emissary with a message from Caliph Abu Bakr to the Persian commander, Khosru. The message stated: "You [Khosru and his people] should convert to Islam, and then you will be safe, for if you don't, you should know that I have come to you with an army of men that love death, as you love life." This account is recited in today's Muslim sermons, newspapers, and textbooks.
  7. The message stated: "You [Khosru and his people] should convert to Islam, and then you will be safe, for if you don't, you should know that I have come to you with an army of men that love death, as you love life."

    This in the year 636;

    Why are we ahead of the game if this strategy is so succesful?
  8. The Zionizer Bunny... STILL GOING!!!!

  9. Interesting how 4000+ american service men and women have willingly died for their ideaology. But that's different I guess.

    Most if not all believe they will be going to "heaven".
  10. Their ideaology is mom, apple pie and chevrolet, not a diety.

    All or some may believe they are going to heaven, but I can gaurentee that they all believe that they won't die.
    #10     Mar 4, 2008