World War III needed to wake up the people

Discussion in 'Economics' started by DT-waw, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. "Warning" people who are ill equipped to care for themselves, let alone a whole nation, seems....futile?
     
    #41     Jun 10, 2009
  2. There are very powerful, very well entrenched interest that would thwart any such attempt at a society that essentially eliminates their primary mode of control.

    The world has always been tactical to practical.

    The powers knew that the information superhighway was on it's way.

    The solution? Make it so that the masses cannot read the directions, and are emotionally childlike. Make the internet "masses friendly". Cover it's potential with porn, music videos, and chat sites. Portray anyone who thinks as boring, and those that think too much as conspiracy nuts.

    The result? U already know, as u predicted this thread would last three posts.

    The change in human nature that u would need would require nothing less than the taking out of the powers that be.

    They have had near misses in France and the United States. They know now that the children of the Middle Classes must be corrupted, and the parents have to b kept distracted, but pleasantly so.

    I fear that bread and circuses has been perfected, my friend. The intellectual and cultural revolution that u would need cannot get off the ground, because the powers now understand that if u keep the middle classes comfortable then the problem of control is solved.

    The lower classes are too focused on survival, and the upper classes have a vested interest in the status quo.

    All of this social engineering BEFORE we discuss the actual implementation of your enterprise as a agent of good rather than a weapon of war.
     
    #42     Jun 10, 2009
  3. DT-waw

    DT-waw

    Yes, I've also noticed that Jacque Fresco, author of resource based economy advocates other renewable energy sources, mainly geothermal.
    I have no idea what is his view on cold fusion.

    An agency of Pentagon, DARPA admitted that cold fusion works.
     
    #43     Jun 10, 2009
  4. There aren't any shortages. Farmers are actually paid NOT to grow things.

    Diamonds are actually abundant, but are released in a very limited fashion.

    Release the full potential of the American Midwest, and restore Zimbabwe, and in just those TWO things, the spectre of hunger has been severly crippled.
     
    #44     Jun 10, 2009
  5. DT-waw

    DT-waw

    RealGannTrader - very, very good post.
    I'm also affraid it will be extremely hard to get things off the ground. I tend to blame the ignorant masses rather than the elite.
    On the other hand it seems that elite dumbs down the masses on purpose, for its own selfish, pervert desires.

    Like henry kissinger said "power is the ultimate aphrodisiac". they seem enjoying it a lot.
     
    #45     Jun 10, 2009
  6. pspr

    pspr

    And here's the guy that may justify bringing us to the brink of WWIII

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/09/americas-first-muslim-president/

    During his White House years, William Jefferson Clinton -- someone Judge Sonia Sotomayor might call a "white male" -- was dubbed "America's first black president" by a black admirer. Applying the standard of identity politics and pandering to a special interest that earned Mr. Clinton that distinction, Barack Hussein Obama would have to be considered America's first Muslim president.

    This is not to say, necessarily, that Mr. Obama actually is a Muslim any more than Mr. Clinton actually is black. After his five months in office, and most especially after his just-concluded visit to Saudi Arabia and Egypt, however, a stunning conclusion seems increasingly plausible: The man now happy to have his Islamic-rooted middle name featured prominently has engaged in the most consequential bait-and-switch since Adolf Hitler duped Neville Chamberlain over Czechoslovakia at Munich.

    What little we know about Mr. Obama's youth certainly suggests that he not only had a Kenyan father who was Muslim, but spent his early, formative years as one in Indonesia. As the president likes to say, "much has been made" -- in this case by him and his campaign handlers -- of the fact that he became a Christian as an adult in Chicago, under the now-notorious Pastor Jeremiah A. Wright.

    With Mr. Obama's unbelievably ballyhooed address in Cairo Thursday to what he calls "the Muslim world" (hereafter known as "the Speech"), there is mounting evidence that the president not only identifies with Muslims, but actually may still be one himself. Consider the following indicators:

    • Mr. Obama referred four times in his speech to "the Holy Koran." Non-Muslims -- even pandering ones -- generally don't use that Islamic formulation.

    • Mr. Obama established his firsthand knowledge of Islam (albeit without mentioning his reported upbringing in the faith) with the statement, "I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed." Again, "revealed" is a depiction Muslims use to reflect their conviction that the Koran is the word of God, as dictated to Muhammad.

    • Then the president made a statement no believing Christian -- certainly not one versed, as he professes to be, in the ways of Islam -- would ever make. In the context of what he euphemistically called the "situation between Israelis, Palestinians and Arabs," Mr. Obama said he looked forward to the day ". . . when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them) joined in prayer."

    Now, the term "peace be upon them" is invoked by Muslims as a way of blessing deceased holy men. According to Islam, that is what all three were - dead prophets. Of course, for Christians, Jesus is the living and immortal Son of God.

    In the final analysis, it may be beside the point whether Mr. Obama actually is a Muslim. In the Speech and elsewhere, he has aligned himself with adherents to what authoritative Islam calls Shariah -- notably, the dangerous global movement known as the Muslim Brotherhood -- to a degree that makes Mr. Clinton's fabled affinity for blacks pale by comparison.

    For example, Mr. Obama has -- from literally his inaugural address onward -- inflated the numbers and, in that way and others, exaggerated the contemporary and historical importance of Muslim-Americans in the United States. In the Speech, he used the Brotherhood's estimates of "nearly 7 million Muslims" in this country, at least twice the estimates from other, more reputable sources. (Who knows? By the time Mr. Obama's friends in the radical Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN) perpetrate their trademark books-cooking as deputy 2010 census takers, the official count may well claim considerably morethan 7 million Muslims are living here.)

    Even more troubling were the commitments the president made in Cairo to promote Islam in America. For instance, he declared: "I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." He vowed to ensure that women can cover their heads, including, presumably, when having their photographs taken for passports, driver's licenses or other identification purposes. He also pledged to enable Muslims to engage in zakat, their faith's requirement for tithing, even though four of the eight types of charity called for by Shariah can be associated with terrorism. Not surprisingly, a number of Islamic "charities" in this country have been convicted of providing material support for terrorism.

    Particularly worrying is the realignment Mr. Obama has announced in U.S. policy toward Israel. While he pays lip service to the "unbreakable" bond between America and the Jewish state, the president has unmistakably signaled that he intends to compel the Israelis to make territorial and other strategic concessions to Palestinians to achieve the hallowed two-state solution. In doing so, he ignores the inconvenient fact that both the Brotherhood's Hamas and Abu Mazen's Fatah remain determined to achieve a one-state solution, whereby the Jews will be driven "into the sea."

    Whether Mr. Obama actually is a Muslim or simply plays one in the presidency may, in the end, be irrelevant. What is alarming is that in aligning himself and his policies with those of Shariah-adherents such as the Muslim Brotherhood, the president will greatly intensify the already enormous pressure on peaceful, tolerant American Muslims to submit to such forces - and heighten expectations, here and abroad, that the rest of us will do so as well.
     
    #46     Jun 10, 2009
  7. Bring on the War.....Im in Oil at we are heading to 80 here shortly. War breaks out.....300 plus.

    All my net worth is in Oil, so, the war will bring me 'Fruit" of my labour.

    But in all reality...War as in World War is not going to happen.

    Conflicts, maybe a Nuke Strick but I doubt that.

    There will be a second American Revolution before a World War. Revolution is more likely IMHO.
     
    #47     Jun 10, 2009
  8. Keep in mind that, 100 years ago, America was driven by horses as the source of motive power. And railroads were a major player in goods transportation. It didn't take long for motor vehicles to substantially wipe out and supplant those two industries. If this new energy source is developed by the private sector, it will be in use in our homes and industries as fast as the internet or the refrigerator were. If it is gov't controlled, it might take some time to develop.
     
    #48     Jun 10, 2009
  9. I am glad there are so many stupid people, and I am happy that the system does so much to increase their numbers, I wish everyone was as stupid as the idiots seen on these reality shows

    this world is already shit, if most people were smart, this world would be so fucking bad, you'd wish you were in hell. at least you have the chance of manipulating and using stupid people, usually because they can't imagine anyone smarter than themselves, it makes it easy to use this against them
     
    #49     Jun 11, 2009
  10. DT,

    I truly respect ur efforts at a place like ET. I don't know how old u r, or how long u have studied this, but do urself an interesting read, and pick up I, Robot by Issac Asimov. In it he alludes the budding NWO. This was back in 1941. He details how he thinks the EU, NAU, AFU, and ASU will be divided up, etc. Again, this was written in 1941. In fact, the entire Foundation series is good reading if u like what I call Poly-SciFi. Seventeen books tho. Have some free time.

    I said all that to say that the masses do not understand social engineering, and they are now at a point where they cannot.

    Planned obsolescence, artificial scarcity, fiat currency, planned population reduction thru war and famine. Do u know what ur up against, DT?

    Ur telling people that all they ever believed in is a lie. Men have died for much less.

    The Venus Project is a beautiful dream, but we will have to have a near extinction level event and the inability to recreate the old tech.

    The good news is that there is evidence left by ancient monuments that this has already happened at least once.

    So, it looks like humanity will reset until we get over the hump. The humans who left the Megaliths either left here, or they didn't get over the hump. Hopefully, they left here

    :)
     
    #50     Jun 11, 2009